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Liberty Hall: SIPTU disappointed at planning refusal, while An Taisce seeks review

SIPTU is left disappointed as An Bord Pleanála turns down an application to rebuild Liberty Hall – while An Taisce says reviews are needed.

THE COUNTRY’S LARGEST trade union, SIPTU, has expressed its disappointment at An Bord Pleanála to refuse a planning application to demolish and rebuild its Liberty Hall headquarters in Dublin.

The planning authority this morning said its board had unanimously turned down the application to rebuild the 17-storey building, ending SIPTU’s hopes that it could build a new 23-floor, 100-metre building on Dublin’s quays.

“The union, our architects and professional advisors have put five years hard work into this project”, SIPTU’s general secretary Joe O’Flynn said.

O’Flynn said this work had included “an enormous amount of consultation with Dublin City Council, our members and other key stakeholders including the local community and their public representatives”.

The union was “extremely disappointed” that An Bord Pleanála had seen fit to overturn the decision that the city council had already reached.

O’Flynn said the union would be examining the detail of the authority’s decision and would not make further public comment until the findings had been digested in full.

The conservation group An Taisce meanwhile called for an independent planning regulator to investigate the decision of the City Council to award the permission in the first place.

This followed An Bord Pleanála’s finding that permitting the development would be in conflict with the Dublin City Development Plan 2011-2017, which focussed on the need “to protect and enhance the skyline of the inner city”.

“This decision is very similar to that for the over-scaled Mater site for National Childrens’ Hospital and is based on the recognition of the real importance of the cultural and economic status of the centre of Dublin as the national capital,” An Taisce said in a statement.

“It also protects the asset value of Dublin’s historic centre, which is key to boosting tourism and safeguarding jobs in the wider visitor accommodation and entertainment sectors.”

Its communications officer Charles Stanley-Smith said the An Bord Pleanála decision “raises the wider question as to why Dublin City Council is found to have once again breached its own Development Plan and National Policy and the lack of an independent investigation thereof”.

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    Mute FG2016
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    Nov 16th 2012, 1:52 PM

    “I’m just so disappointed”, said head “man of the people” on €250k per year, “I was really hoping to be able to sit on the 23rd storey of our glass mansion and look down on people”

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    Mute Stephen murphy
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    Nov 16th 2012, 1:58 PM

    Just like FG/FF/Labour!

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    Mute FG2016
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    Nov 16th 2012, 2:02 PM

    What?

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    Mute Stephen murphy
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    Nov 16th 2012, 2:08 PM

    Are you shocked, that these parties pay themselves like Lords and Ladies, while treating the citizens like cashcows?

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    Mute Daniel Dudek Corrigan
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    Nov 16th 2012, 2:09 PM

    Will you just quit moaning about 250k?!

    So should we never build anything ever again, unless it is managed by someone on 35k?!

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    Mute Jay funk
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    Nov 16th 2012, 2:16 PM

    The top 3 stories were actually going to be public spaces, but agree it was a bit of a vanity project

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    Mute John Scott
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    Nov 16th 2012, 5:21 PM

    may be a cut in fees now not b4 time

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    Mute Stephen murphy
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    Nov 16th 2012, 1:47 PM

    They should march on the streets and protest, Oh hang on they don’t do that anymore?

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    Mute Kitty Prendergast
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    Nov 17th 2012, 1:17 AM

    Never mind marching, where are they getting the kind of money it takes to demolish and rebuild a skyscraper in the middle of a capital city?? Surely it could be put to better use. Surely THEY could be put to better use!

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    Mute Damocles
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    Nov 16th 2012, 2:00 PM

    Do they still use it? It looks abandoned.

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    Mute Michael Cunningham
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    Nov 16th 2012, 4:42 PM

    That is one ugly building.

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    Mute Joe Loughrey
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    Nov 16th 2012, 5:57 PM

    I know I’m in a minority here but I like liberty hall. Apart from what seems to be a bit of a waste of money and no doubt endless roadworks on the quays if it was replaced, it’s always been part of the Dublin skyline as long as I’ve been alive.

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    Mute John Scott
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    Nov 30th 2012, 5:23 PM

    they do now is it not time to drop there fees to the workers. it is about time .

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    Mute Reg
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    Nov 16th 2012, 2:02 PM

    What is going on with councils in this country. Why are they granting permission for projects that are in breach of their own development plans only the to have them overturned at great expense and waste to all concerned?

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    Mute Daithí Naughton
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    Nov 16th 2012, 1:57 PM

    Maybe now they’ll be made restore what was once a masterpiece of Modern Architecture after letting it fall into hideous disrepair for the past 45 years!

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    Mute Jay funk
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    Nov 16th 2012, 2:14 PM

    It was never a masterpiece, a nice building before they changed the windows but never a masterpiece

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    Mute Eric Chubb
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    Nov 16th 2012, 2:07 PM

    Good to know those union subscription fees were being put to good use. Oh wait…

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    Mute Brian Daly
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    Nov 16th 2012, 2:24 PM

    Liberty Hall is an iconic Dublin building that SIPTU shouldn’t be allowed demolition. They have been very poor custodians of the building – look at what they did the window and the way the entrance area is maintained and the crap signage at ground floor level. You can’t blame people for having a negative view of a building that looks shabby.

    What would be great to see is the building restored, “up lighting” put under the roof canopy and spruce up of the ground floor entrance and environs.

    I don’t think that Liberty Hall was ever supposed to be a lone tall building in the city centre. It would be good to see it get a few brothers and sisters in the ‘hood.

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    Nov 16th 2012, 3:05 PM

    Tara street station Redevelopment

    http://archiseek.com/tag/tara-street-station-redevelopment/

    Hawkin House planned demolition and replaced with mid and high-rise buildings.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/0208/1224311460512.html

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    Mute Graham Carrick
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    Nov 17th 2012, 12:43 PM

    Liberty hall is uglier than a communist era tower you’d see in Minsk. Tear down that monstrosity. It’s embarrassing especially being across the road from the ulster bank hq

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    Mute David Kennedy
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    Nov 16th 2012, 4:51 PM

    Can someone explain to me why SIPTU needs to have such a marquee location and 23 stories of it? I would have presumed that TUs were not for profit?

    If I were paying subs (and i never would) to these bearded representatives of the ‘working people,’ I’d be seriously questioning the logic of this vanity project.

    Trade Unions have a place in protecting genuine workers rights but SIPTU is an ‘old boys club,’ that does nothing but use its scale to hinder Ireland’s return to competitiveness and ultimately cost jobs.

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    Nov 16th 2012, 3:21 PM

    Ah now I know where my union subs are going!!! Why don’t they hire the unemployed people they represent to update the building with all the money they have!

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    Mute Martin Sinnott
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    Nov 16th 2012, 2:29 PM

    No redevelopment, no jobs !

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    Mute Garrett Mullan
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    Nov 16th 2012, 4:51 PM

    they should have bn given permission. we need high rise landmark buildings

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    Mute Damocles
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    Nov 16th 2012, 5:16 PM

    Why?

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    Mute Eoin Norris
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    Nov 16th 2012, 11:50 PM

    The Journal used to be fun. Unfortunately it’s been taken over by the miserable bunts who dominate the Irish Internet. Wawawa bearded. Wawawa Edna. Wawawa property tax. Wawawawawa. It’s like 3 year olds with keyboards.

    I like liberty hall. The new building would have been interesting, just because some of the city is Georgian doesn’t mean it can’t build up in certain parts.

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    Mute Frank2521
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    Nov 16th 2012, 3:29 PM

    It is a sad reflection on the planners and architects of Dublin City Council when they passed the planning for this glass block. These guys travel Europe and the world on junkets looking at beautiful buildings and come back and grant permission for this thing that a child could design. If they simply looked at the Custom House and thought about our Georgian city for 1 minute they might appreciate architecture a little more. We get what we deserve. If they want to create employment may I suggest they knock down most of the buildings that DCC passed for planning like Prioy Hall and others and redesign and build them properly and safely.

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    Mute Damocles
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    Nov 16th 2012, 3:47 PM

    They should remove it. I don’t think it should be replaced.

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    Mute Bobby
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    Nov 16th 2012, 5:14 PM

    They will put it to every member of the joke of a union they call SIPTU to march on Leinster house til they get what they want….pack of whining toss pots….

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    Nov 16th 2012, 3:44 PM

    They should restore the existing building. There’s no reason it can’t be given a modern facelift for a fraction of the price. It would be a shame to see this building go.. I love it!

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    Mute gerry
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    Nov 16th 2012, 2:10 PM

    Now, go and strike about THAT!!

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    Mute Mary Kavanagh
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    Nov 16th 2012, 2:05 PM

    It would be great if they would do that and have a restaurant and viewing area on the floor under the frill.

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    Mute FG2016
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    Nov 16th 2012, 2:06 PM

    Yeah, the caviar bar and money fighting room would also be a nice touch.

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    Mute Leigh Barker
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    Nov 16th 2012, 5:30 PM

    Another Guinness Storehouse? Not the most imaginative. Were they proposing to open it up for the public then? Presume there would be a charge at the door…

    I kind of imagined something more like a casino perhaps, with some dancing girls for the boys with exceedingly high wages to play with… All courtesy of TU subscriptions.

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    Nov 16th 2012, 8:18 PM

    Unions are past their sell by date. They should share out the loot that they have taken to their members and quietly go to the great union in the sky

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    Mute Liam Kennedy
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    Nov 16th 2012, 9:16 PM

    provided the restaurant revolved. food tastes better when you’re revolving!

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    Nov 17th 2012, 12:41 PM

    FG2016 you are without doubt the most bitter loser I’ve ever come across. Stop complaining

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    Mute ROBERTO
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    Nov 17th 2012, 12:51 AM

    Well done to An Taisce

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    Mute Brian Daly
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    Nov 16th 2012, 2:26 PM

    We should bring this back on Fridays! :) http://playhouse.daft.ie/

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    Mute Michael Byrne
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    Nov 16th 2012, 11:08 PM

    They should demolish it but only with all siptu reps in it-they are a joke. They don’t even have the welfare of workers at heart only jobs for the boys.

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    Mute Johnny Hegarty
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    Nov 17th 2012, 11:38 AM

    A vanity project for those that waste the money of Irish workers and protect high salaries, archaic work practices and jobs for the boys …… Policies that increase unemployment and prevent recovery for all. The pursuit of this project is disgusting in this time and never made economic or cultural sense. Repair the building. Act responsibly. Start protecting jobs rather than archaic and inefficient work practices.

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