@Robert Phelan: yes build more new home then snapped up by air b/b and other short stay holiday platforms. Stop them in their tracks by strong laws higher fines and the more properties on their books the heavier the fine and the fine used to cover the cost prosecutions so their is no cost to the councils.

@Renton Burke: nimby apartment dwellers?? Do you mean people that have bought a place to live and raise a family?? That now have to live beside a hotel, a hotel that has no one working in it that you can go to when problems arise in the middle of the night with drunken stag and hens parties,, if you want to get into the hotel business fair enough, go buy a place in a commercial building and adhere to the proper rules and regulations like all other hotels and B&Bs have to, all short term let’s should be illegal in residential buildings, it’s nothing but greed and a two fingered I don’t give a fu@& about anyone else who lives in the building,, I hope they all get hammered in the pocket by the government, only place that the greedy ba$ta£ds care about….

@Devilsavocado: Have you any idea how crass a statement that is? Crawl back under your stone.

@Devilsavocado: I agree. Airbnb is definitely a huge part of the problem. At the moment it’s a free for all. And the new laws are making matters worse by the sounds of it.

There should be a strict certification process. Airbnb letters should be required to hold a license. That license should come with a tax. Just like any other license. Granting of license in each region would be assessed based on public housing needs in that region. Airbnb should be required by law to only allow those holding a valid license to avail of their service. Anyone else found in breach of the law would be fined and risk never owning a license in future.

@Robert Phelan: govt should tax air BnB company at point of sale just as OECD plans to do with big tech.

@Patrick Nolan: My tenants probably would disagree with you. They had a good rent in a nice property.

@Peter Buchanan: DH – any idea what those two letters stand for?

@Devilsavocado: the council do it on private estates my neighbors have had years of grief from council tenants and the rest see their lifestyle is similar to their if not better all the while they pay top rates for their mortgages to have their night sleep broken by TVs on all night

@Adolf Galland: that’s a little silly ,that’s not what he meant

@Peter Buchanan: The constitution recognises property rights, but allows the Government to legislate for the common good. This is why we have planning law. You can’t do what you like with your property. Hence planning permission for extensions etc.

The vast majority of commercial Airbnbs do not have planning permission. ABP have ruled that airbnb style letting is a material change of use. So even without the new rules there is a widespread breach of planning law going on. The problem (as ever in Ireland) is one of enforcement.

@Gerard Heery: and your neighbour hates it and it makes his life a misery yes?? But the council does it so it’s ok for everyone else to do it and make the problem worse?? Is that really your response to me “the council does it” Jesus wept…..

@FlopFlipU: Yeah but it’s funny.

@Devilsavocado: Less of the sarcasm please. I’m just making the point that the owner of the property is not always to blame. Many tenants are subletting via Airbnb. I didn’t see that point being made.

If the owner is told that a tenant is subletting via Airbnb should they be able to terminate the tenancy? The reality is that all these measures tend to be directed at the owner as the “bad guy”, who may have no idea that the long term tenant they think they have is actually an airbnb landlord.

@Cathal Byrne: so new rules and regulations need to be set up to stop these problems that airb&b has brought in,, do you agree Cathal?

@Devilsavocado: The irony of your comment. People renting through Airbnb are themselves in the B&B sector. Why isn’t the same ire directed at pre-existing Hotels and B&Bs? People coming and going at all hours, hoarding property which could potentially house people, dodging tax etc. What exactly is your issue that doesn’t also apply to Hotels and B&Bs?

@Paraic: google how to set up a B&B in Ireland, everything from changing you status with water company’s to fire safety certification to food safety etc etc,,also I’d like to see you have a rave in your hotel room and not have security hammer down your door after other residents complain about the noise, do it again and any decent hotel will have you out on your ear in a heartbeat,, who do you get in touch with when this happens next door to your apartment??

@Devilsavocado: You go to the property owner running the let of course. Even if they haven’t given you their contact details, they can easily be contacted through the Airbnb platform. It isn’t in the interests of a property owner to have raves in their property. Why do you think that a German couple on holidays are more likely to organise a rave in your property than college students renting? It doesn’t make any sense. No, this is a phantom issue that is just a detraction from the real problem. Government failure and unwillingness to build.

@Devilsavocado: You keep bringing up this party/race argument as if it’s exclusive to Airbnb. It isn’t.

@This Guy: Race?? What are you on about??And I’ve brought up other things like people trying to rent properties to live in cities at reasonable rates, people who want to buy and live in their own properties but are being priced out of the market, B&B owners and hotels that employ millions that have to adhere to rules, regulations and tax issues that short term letters don’t have to, and if you think that the party house issue isn’t a big deal, google airb&b neighbours from hell to see how it has effected so many people that bought our rented in residential buildings only to have their families lives turned upside down by short term renters that couldn’t give a f about the damage they cause on their drunken weekend breaks. Rules need to be applied because this is getting out of control…

@Devilsavocado: He meant raves. There is plenty of media out there sensationalising Airbnb guests from hell. This is one of the issues when you sell an Irish TV station to Virgin media for example. You give a multinational hotelier (among other things) a platform to produce and air their own self serving propaganda. (“Airbnb Dream it Nightmare?”). Ask a person who is actually letting their property through Airbnb. They will be much more bland and benign stories of grateful and respectful couples, families etc. trying to save a few euro, leaving the place pristine. With respect to “coming and going at all hours” that is at odds with the reality. Take a look at some Airbnb listings. They specify check in or check out times between late morning (11-12 am or so and early evening 4-6pm).

@Paraic: is that right Paraic, problems with unmonitored guests are just a conspiracy made up by big hotel chains,, do us a favour and just scroll down there to Lauren and tell her she is making it up and her first hand experience of living next door to an apartment that has brought unpleasant living conditions and angry responses from guests when asked to be respectful to neighbours is all just a figment of her imagination….

@Devilsavocado: Should we ban Taxis too. Because y’know, just Google “taxi drivers from hell”. There will always be rogue operators. At least with Airbnb if you get a bad egg, they won’t be there for years, unlike bad tenants.

@Paraic: so all you can do is bring in problems from other sectors,, but you have no answers to the problems created by short term lettings to the many people I’ve mentioned in previous posts,, it’s people like you with your f u attitude to everyone else that’s the problem with this country,, hotels and certified B&Bs are for tourists, apartments in residential buildings are for people to live in, like it or not our government will bring in laws like Germany, and states in America have to prevent people making money and having little or no respect for the community’s that they set up in and the sooner the better in my opinion….. :)

@Devilsavocado: *rave

@Devilsavocado: I brought up taxis as an example of an industry that has issues with rogues but is not banned outright as a result. It’s a fair point. Lawbreakers are prevalent in every aspect of society. It’s disingenuous to point to the actions of lawbreakers as an excuse to introduce new legislation that is really designed to erode the rights of a service provider. Existing laws to deal with disruption in apartment blocks is already in place. If an Airbnb guest/guests are affecting you because they are having a rave in a residential block of apartments, by all means, take legal action against them. Same thing if they are tenants, guests of tenants, drug dealers etc.

@Paraic: did you not read the bit that she said her landlord is an a$$h0le who is most likely the one that’s renting out other apartments in the building on airb&b, who also doesn’t live in the country,, ah but sure it’s only him right?? There’s no chance that if the government doesn’t take action that more foreign investors will see this as a way to make a killing and to hell with people who need somewhere to live in Dublins fair city….

@Devilsavocado: Thanks for clearing that up. It wasn’t obvious which property she was referring to since the words ‘my’ or ‘their’ was omitted before Landlord.
Well that’s great news then! The root cause is her @$$hole landlord. As a tenant, she has the right to enjoy the use of the apartment uninterrupted by excessive noise and without filth in the common areas. The RTB is there to ensure that the terms of her tenancy are upheld. In the case if she has no satisfaction with her landlord, she can initiate a case with the RTB. No need for new legislation, raise a case under the existing ones.

@Paraic: Actually we own it. The owner I was referring to is the owner of the AirBnB. He’s coining it so doesn’t give a hoot (he doesn’t live there himself). Our management company also couldn’t care less.

@Lauren Halligan: Thanks for clearing it up. Is there not an owner’s/residents committee that can help you put pressure on him though? If not and this is a genuine and regular issue, then you should form one and take group action. Then there’s the legal route if all else fails. I lived in an apartment in Dublin myself for long enough. It’s not ideal living. Always done source of disruption. With me it was my electric guitar playing downstairs neighbor. Should we legislate against guitar playing though?