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POT: A history of marijuana

Washington State and Colorado in the US voted to legalise the drug’s use last month – but what happened in the States before pot went ‘proper’?

THE GRASS IS no greener. But, finally, it’s legal — at least somewhere in America. It’s been a long, strange trip for marijuana.

Washington state and Colorado voted to legalise and regulate its recreational use last month. (At the beginning of this month, it emerged that marijuana may be legislated for in Ireland next year – but only under prescription, for certain medicinal uses).

The plant, renowned since ancient times for its strong fibres, medical use and mind-altering properties, was a staple crop of the colonies, an “assassin of youth,” a counterculture emblem and a widely accepted — if often abused — medicine.

Cannabis in the colonies

George Washington and Thomas Jefferson both grew hemp and puzzled over the best ways to process it for clothing and rope.

Indeed, cannabis has been grown in America since soon after the British arrived. In 1619 the Crown ordered the colonists at Jamestown to grow hemp to satisfy England’s incessant demand for maritime ropes, Wayne State University professor Ernest Abel wrote in “Marihuana: The First Twelve Thousand Years.”

Hemp became more important to the colonies as New England’s own shipping industry developed, and homespun hemp helped clothe American soldiers during the Revolutionary War. Some colonies offered farmers “bounties” for growing it.

“We have manufactured within our families the most necessary articles of cloathing,” Jefferson said in “Notes on the State of Virginia.” ”Those of wool, flax and hemp are very coarse, unsightly, and unpleasant.”

Jefferson went on to invent a device for processing hemp in 1815.

Luke ‘Ming’ Flanagan showed that hemp clothing has reached sophisticated heights when he donned this hemp-cloth suit in the Dáil in November of last year: (Still from OireachtasTV)

Taste the hashish

Books such as “The Arabian Nights” and Alexandre Dumas’ “The Count of Monte Cristo,” with its voluptuous descriptions of hashish highs in the exotic Orient, helped spark a cannabis fad among intellectuals in the mid-19th century.

“But what changes occur!” one of Dumas’ characters tells an uninitiated acquaintance. “When you return to this mundane sphere from your visionary world, you would seem to leave a Neapolitan spring for a Lapland winter – to quit paradise for earth – heaven for hell! Taste the hashish, guest of mine – taste the hashish.”

After the American Civil War, with hospitals often overprescribing opiates for pain, many soldiers returned home hooked on harder drugs. Those addictions eventually became a public health concern. In 1906, US Congress passed the Pure Food and Drug Act, requiring labelling of ingredients, and states began regulating opiates and other medicines — including cannabis.

Mexican folklore and jazz clubs

By the turn of the 20th century, cannabis smoking remained little known in the United States — but that was changing, thanks largely to the Associated Press, says Isaac Campos, a Latin American history professor at the University of Cincinnati.

In the 1890s, the first English-language newspaper opened in Mexico and, through the wire service, tales of marijuana-induced violence that were common in Mexican papers began to appear north of the border — helping to shape public perceptions that would later form the basis of pot prohibition, Campos says.

By 1910, when the Mexican Revolution pushed immigrants north, articles in the New York Sun, Boston Daily Globe and other papers decried the “evils of ganjah smoking” and suggested that some use it “to key themselves up to the point of killing.”

Pot-smoking spread through the 1920s and became especially popular with jazz musicians. Louis Armstrong, a lifelong fan and defender of the drug he called “gage,” was arrested in California in 1930 and given a six-month suspended sentence for pot possession.

“It relaxes you, makes you forget all the bad things that happen to a Negro,” he once said. In the 1950s, he urged legalisation in a letter to President Dwight Eisenhower.

Reefer Madness, Hemp For Victory

After the repeal of alcohol prohibition in 1933, Harry Anslinger, who headed the federal Bureau of Narcotics, turned his attention to pot. He told of sensational crimes reportedly committed by marijuana addicts. “No one knows, when he places a marijuana cigarette to his lips, whether he will become a philosopher, a joyous reveler in a musical heaven, a mad insensate, a calm philosopher, or a murderer,” he wrote in a 1937 magazine article called “Marijuana: Assassin of Youth.”

The hysteria was captured in the propaganda films of the time — most famously, “Reefer Madness,” which depicted young adults descending into violence and insanity after smoking marijuana. The movie found little audience upon its release in 1936 but was rediscovered by pot fans in the 1970s.

Congress banned marijuana with the Marihuana Tax Act of 1937. Anslinger continued his campaign into the ’40s and ’50s, sometimes trying — without luck — to get jazz musicians to inform on each other. “Zoot suited hep cats, with their jive lingo and passion for swift, hot music, provide a fertile field for growth of the marijuana habit, narcotics agents have found here,” began a 1943 Washington Post story about increasing pot use in the nation’s capital.

The Department of Agriculture promoted a different message. After Japanese troops cut off access to Asian fiber supplies during World War II, it released “Hemp For Victory,” a propaganda film urging farmers to grow hemp and extolling its use in parachutes and rope for the war effort.

(A 1930s anti-marijuana movie poster from the Drugs Enforcement Agency Musuem in Vancouver. Pic: AP Photo/DEA)

Counterculture

As the conformity of the postwar era took hold, getting high on marijuana and other drugs emerged as a symbol of the counterculture, with Jack Kerouac and the rest of the Beat Generation singing pot’s praises. It also continued to be popular with actors and musicians. When actor Robert Mitchum was arrested on a marijuana charge in 1948, People magazine recounted, “The press nationwide branded him a dope fiend. Preachers railed against him from pulpits. Mothers warned their daughters to shun his films.”

Congress responded to increasing drug use — especially heroin — with stiffer penalties in the ’50s. Anslinger began to hype what we now call the “gateway drug” theory: that marijuana had to be controlled because it would eventually lead its users to heroin.

Then came Vietnam. The widespread, open use of marijuana by hippies and war protesters from San Francisco to Woodstock finally exposed the falsity of the claims so many had made about marijuana leading to violence, says University of Virginia professor Richard Bonnie, a scholar of pot’s cultural status.

In 1972, Bonnie was the associate director of a commission appointed by President Richard Nixon to study marijuana. The commission said marijuana should be decriminalised and regulated. Nixon rejected that, but a dozen states in the ’70s went on to eliminate jail time as a punishment for pot arrests.

(This AP photo from 1 August, 1970, shows young people sell marijuana openly from sacks at a banned music festival in Middlefield, Connecticut.)

“Just say No”

The push to liberalise drug laws hit a wall by the late 1970s. Parents groups became concerned about data showing that more children were using drugs, and at a younger age. The religious right was emerging as a force in national politics. And the first “Cheech and Chong” movie, in 1978, didn’t do much to burnish pot’s image.

When she became first lady, Nancy Reagan quickly promoted the anti-drug cause. During a visit with schoolchildren in Oakland, California, as Reagan later recalled, “A little girl raised her hand and said, ‘Mrs Reagan, what do you do if somebody offers you drugs?’ And I said, ‘Well, you just say no.’ And there it was born.”

By 1988, more than 12,000 “Just Say No” clubs and school programs had been formed, according to the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation and Library. Between 1978 and 1987, the percentage of high school seniors reporting daily use of marijuana fell from 10 percent to 3 percent.

And marijuana use was so politically toxic that when Bill Clinton ran for president in 1992, he said he “didn’t inhale.”

(Cheech and Chong trailer, via JeckyS/Youtube)

Meds of a different sort

Marijuana has been used as medicine since ancient times, as described in Chinese, Indian and Roman texts, but US drug laws in the latter part of the 20th century made no room for it. In the 1970s, many states passed symbolic laws calling for studies of marijuana’s efficacy as medicine, although virtually no studies ever took place because of the federal prohibition.

Nevertheless, doctors noted its ability to ease nausea and stimulate appetites of cancer and AIDS patients. And in 1996, California became the first state to allow the medical use of marijuana. Since then, 17 other states and the District of Columbia have followed.

In recent years, medical marijuana dispensaries — readily identifiable by the green crosses on their storefronts — have proliferated in many states, including Washington, Colorado and California. That’s prompted a backlash from some who suggest they are fronts for illicit drug dealing and that most of the people they serve aren’t really sick. The US Justice Department has shut down some it deems the worst offenders.

(In this 1997 file photo provided by CBS, Murphy Brown, portrayed by actress Candice Bergen, smokes a marijuana cigarette to quell nausea induced by the chemotherapy used to treat her breast cancer. Pic: AP Photo/CBS, Spike Nannarello)

Legal weed at last

On 6 November, Washington and Colorado voted to become the first states to legalise the fun use of marijuana. Voters handily approved measures to decriminalise the possession of up to an ounce by adults over 21. Colorado’s measure also permits home-growing of up to six plants.

Both states are working to set up a regulatory scheme with licensed growers, processors and retail stores. Eventually, activists say, grown-ups will be able to walk into a store, buy some marijuana, and walk out with ganja in hand — but not before paying the taxman. The states expect to raise hundreds of millions of dollars for schools and other government functions.

But it’s not so simple. The regulatory schemes conflict with the federal government’s longstanding pot prohibition, according to many legal scholars. The Justice Department could sue to block those schemes from taking effect — but hasn’t said whether it will do so.

The bizarre journey of cannabis in America continues.

- By Gene Johnson

Associated Press researcher Julie Reed Bell contributed to this report from Charlotte, N.C.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:23 PM

    Well Done Ivan, you did the other 31 Counties Proud

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:26 PM

    @Fergal Pigat: how by leaving the country not paying his debts of millions of euro

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:31 PM

    @Garreth Mc Mahon: he went bankrupt, like thousands of other businesses. It’s a normal part of any economy.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:35 PM

    @Garreth Mc Mahon: He went bankrupt, its not that unusual.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:42 PM

    @James Wallace: not when he left Ireland to be absolved of his debt in another country by claimong residency there.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:46 PM

    @Doubtchya Boy!:
    You do know that Ireland now has the same bankruptcy rules?

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:15 PM

    @Fergal Pigat: *25

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:19 PM

    @Fergal Pigat: The Irish love a flogging a pity people can’t put aside their political allegiances and nail Harris for in ineptitude in Health plus his buddy Varadkar- costing taxpayers far more than FAI were bailout by

    Typical D4 witch hunt and the D4 intelligence hoarders rain supreme but not problem begging for tickets and in most cases not paying for them

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:22 PM

    @Patrick Nolan: not at the time. Him and Shane Dolan went around the same time to the uk also I thought it was two years here where originally it was twelve years

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:24 PM

    @Garreth Mc Mahon: sorry that should be Shane Filan

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:45 PM

    @Garreth Mc Mahon: he was bankrupt…..

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:59 PM

    @Garreth Mc Mahon: Denis o brien pays Yates wages. Makes you wonder.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 3:04 PM

    @James Wallace: He went bankrupt despite €1000 a week state pension, which started in his forties.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 3:14 PM

    @Fergal Pigat: Yates is just jealous, a state funded failed Gombeen.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 3:20 PM

    @Garreth Mc Mahon: Different subject, keep the eye on the ball here, Ivan is asking the King of embarrassment politicians legitimate questions, but if you want to discuss Ivan, read his book, Full On, and get the context on Ivan’s background etc. the banks put him through Hell and Back and after many years of trying, he had no other choice but to leave. Normal Practice !

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    Apr 11th 2019, 3:21 PM

    @Bungee Aky: What you Say

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    Apr 11th 2019, 3:24 PM

    @Martin Brennan: Different Subject !!! Health Department takes more than Harris to get right, perhaps the 100,000 that work in that area could work out something instead of just their Salaries and Benefits !

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    Apr 11th 2019, 3:25 PM

    @Jointheclubtoo: Play the Ball not the Player !

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    Apr 11th 2019, 3:45 PM

    @Garreth Mc Mahon: christ you’re some omlette

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    Apr 11th 2019, 5:04 PM

    @Martin Brennan: Don’t vote them
    Back in then Martin !!! But the problem with the FAI unlike the Government they are accountable only to themselves!

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    Apr 11th 2019, 11:04 PM

    @Fergal Pigat:

    ” read his book, Full On,”

    So I should read his book ::the one he wrote:: and that will put us straight :: the book HE wrote ???

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    Apr 12th 2019, 2:05 AM

    @Garreth Mc Mahon: the first turf account to ever go bankrupt ha

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    Apr 12th 2019, 8:28 AM

    @Fergal Pigat: Ah yes Ivan will explain it all. Ivan could make an effort to repay the debts we are paying on his behalf. Much more practical that writing a book on how his abject greed destroyed him much like his betting shops destroyed so many families.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:31 PM

    I would praise Yates for this but unfortunately it just further encourages Healy Rea’s electorate who have, over the years displayed zero understanding of the concept of the greater good.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:44 PM

    @John O’Leary: Lol! The greater good – like that’s the motivation of any part of the electorate anywhere. I’m sure the voters of whatever Shangri-la you reside in vote for their local TD on the basis of the impact he or she will have on the world, and not on what is best for themselves.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:48 PM

    @John O’Leary: and his stunt yesterday will help his son’s local election campaign in Castleisland electoral area

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:53 PM

    @Yermanuptheroad: Alas, “The Greater Good” usually means Dublin 4

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:58 PM

    Subject:

    Nah that argument doesn’t stand up anymore. In fact you haven’t even made an argument. The FAI are in desperate need of an over haul and this guy hung around all day just to have a dig at the whole process and all to get a giggle from his electorate. The whole act by the two of them now is getting tiresome. This guy openly denys logic, reason and scientific evidence to the detriment of every body else and his voters down there love it purley because he’s a “thorn in the side” of the envirmental movement or because he bucks the latest trend. It’s getting pathetic now and it’s time the electorate took some responsibility.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:00 PM

    @Yermanuptheroad: response above is to your comment sir/madam.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 4:26 PM

    @John O’Leary: I’m afraid my dear man you are well wide of the mark with regard to the Healy Rea’s and your reasoning into why they get elected with a landslide majority every time.
    They get in because they do a mountain of work for people in their electoral area and that is a fact.
    Yes they have a habit of putting their foot in their mouth from time to time and yesterday was another prime example of that.
    I am in total agreement with you about the needed overhaul within the FAI but don’t be acting the pap like Shane Ross…..

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    Apr 11th 2019, 8:20 PM

    @Yermanuptheroad: The problem is politicians help and representation has to be invoked in many cases because going on your own to Government departments for supports as in our case for a child with learning difficulties is a waist of time.
    Healy Rae gets the work done others just talk about it.
    It’s hard to listen to Yates and co they are at every shin dig in the country free gratis in many cases and we go to every league match and local game and when it comes to All Ireland finals we have to stay in our sitting rooms

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:19 PM

    He could at least take his hat off.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:50 PM

    @Marv: __ It’s like Joe Dirt’s mullet, stapled to his head.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:06 PM

    @Marv: It’s a ‘Cap’.!! A ‘Capeen’ !! In his ‘Kingdom’.!!

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:36 PM

    @Marv: he cant. Thats what gombeen’s wear. What he did yesterday was stupid stuff. He was there to ask questio ns and not to heap praise on some on someone who refused to answer questions.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:59 PM

    @Dave Barrett: and he sat there for the entire day to talk sh 1te at the end. The entire day! Not one question. He wanted to sit there and have a gawk and then talk about his locality and how great it is that Delaney is making an appearance. Appearances don’t mean sh 1te when your club never got the funding to get up and running in the first place. 47 yrs ppl in that town wanted to set up a club according to him. How’s that something to be proud of. Delaney loves grassroots my hole!

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    Apr 11th 2019, 3:01 PM

    @Bruce van der Gutschmitzer: he’s someone who doesn’t sit on the committee either. How’s he stealing a wage too?! Gangsters recognise gansters.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 5:39 PM

    @Marv: manky cap , trying to pretend he is not bald!

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    Apr 11th 2019, 6:19 PM

    @Marv: bald as an egg I’ll warrant and like Brett Michaels of Poison ,vanity will assure its glued to his head 24 hrs a day .

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:48 PM

    The Healy Reas are a dynasty who milk the political system. He is the biggest property owner in leinster House. They
    own contractor businesses supplying the local council and Irish Water plus pubs, supermarkets filling stations and employ family members on the State payroll. Excellent at whinging about them up in Dublin and playing the gombeen while the family assets worth millions.
    But they are not fools but extremely shrewd operators acting the Beverly Hillbilly we is just folks persona.
    No wonder he backs Delaney. Takes one to know one!

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:13 PM

    @David Glynn: Best comment here and Yeats is another one of them. The cute hoor blaming all the ills on one group of people and getting support for it from people with chips on their shoulders.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:30 PM

    @David Glynn: just because a fool knows how to play the system, doesn’t stop them from being a fool.

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    Apr 12th 2019, 7:07 AM

    @David Glynn: the Healy-Rae’s were dead against Irish Water and then signed a contract of work with them.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:36 PM

    Healy-Rae represents all that was bad about Ireland in the past! Pure Parish pump politics!
    HR should stick to be a local committee chair or something

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:44 PM

    @Dotty Dunleary: he represents the people of Kerry and he gets things done for people if needed. That can’t be said for many more tds..

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:54 PM

    @SidNolan: ‘Twould take one to know one!

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:01 PM

    @John Mc Donagh: Good one John. Sixth class level banter.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:10 PM

    @SidNolan: I am not a fan of Healy-Rae, but to insult the entire people of a county, because you don’t like the TD they elect is also a little childish.

    Do you think the people of Kerry are going to vote for someone who doesn’t do anything for them?

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:21 PM

    @SidNolan: Please don’t tar all of the people of Kerry with the one brush. I would agree 100% that the people who voted, and continue to vote, for him and his lunatic brother are idiots but not everybody in Kerry votes for them. They represent the worst kind of gombeen man, parish pump politics and go around crashing funerals and such like in order to win votes. I can’t stand that whole family and how they operate.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:28 PM

    @CrabaRev: he has a point. there is really, really, obvious attempts to solicit corruption of Delaney and his cronies stymie the progress of the fai. On top of supporting erstwhile toxic policies like diversion of funds from national programs, drink driving and maintaining a hegemony of council funds, the people of Kerry vote for this policy. it is not snobbery or jealousy, it is embarrassment and rage that fellow Irishmen are taking in by this. the electorate there are either ignorant of complicit, not of which make the previous point valid.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:49 PM

    @John O Brien: haha will ya go away. Just because that family have Kerry fooled doesn’t mean the rest of the country are going to fall for their nonsense. Theyre the closest thing to an Irish mafia u can get. For decades they have used their position to benefit their personal businesses and line their pockets. And the people of Kerry are facilitating it in exchange for a couple of bypasses and less potholes.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 3:06 PM

    @Dotty Dunleary: things haven’t changed in Irish politics at all. Parish pump politics is what gets a TD elected regardless of what others think of him. Michael Lowrey and Bertie Ahern are other fine examples of knowing how the system works.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 3:20 PM

    @John O Brien: and ML of tipp. Screw the dublin meejia.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 4:28 PM

    @SidNolan: And Siddy boy what golden County are you from that gives you such a lofty platform to voice you’re clueless opinions…

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    Apr 11th 2019, 5:33 PM

    @Dotty Dunleary: Sadly this will ensure he tops the poll in next election. I have some respect for him as a hard working man, which i know he is, but his brother is a total embarrassment to Kerry.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:21 PM

    Delighted he called healy rae on it but it is how most politicians operate to get stuff for their areas which is shameful enough that they have to drop to these levels

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:23 PM

    If it was rodadentrums or deer he’d had plenty to say, not to mention drink driving law

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:33 PM

    Television gold, happened to stumble across it live. Healey Rae is a complete gombeen, everyone on the panel had a cut off him & rightly so. The only exception was one of Delaneys self confessed mates involved in soccer in kerry.
    HR wasn’t even on the committee FFS, but still came begging cap in hand with his fake platitudes. The cap on his heads gotta be surgically attached.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:27 PM

    I do not share Michael Healy Rea’s views on John Delaney, but on Ivan Yates he is spot on. A boorish bully who ran away from his debts while retaining a generous Dáil pension and feels free to criticise and insult guests on his show is a thundering disgrace. It is possible to ask questions in a civilised manner and to disagree without being an overgrown schoolboy bully.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:41 PM

    @Marg FitzGerald: Healy-Rae needed dressing down by someone. He’s a con artist that needs to be called out. He thought his time and the time of his electorate was well spent by sitting there all day to say the the sum total of nothing at the end. To fawn over John Delaney is like telling jabadahut that he looks lovely in that dress.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:31 PM

    @Bruce van der Gutschmitzer: Fair enough ,but none of that justifies Yates’ ignorant arrogance , if he can’t ask a question or make a point in a civilised manner he is in the wrong job.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:54 PM

    @Marg FitzGerald: indeed he launched at him head first. Could have composed himself a bit better as host. But I’d have lost it with him too. Just wanted his face on TV. Make a few headlines. He thinks it great that a football club finally opens down the road from him after they’ve wanted to for 47yrs according to him. Every small village and town in Ireland should have a football team. And Delaney has nothing to do with getting it up and going. That’s the locals initiative. All he does is cut the tape.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 3:11 PM

    @Bruce van der Gutschmitzer: If he needs dressing down it doesn’t come so well from a failed Gombeen like Yates.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 3:16 PM

    @Marg FitzGerald: just like his predecessor george hook !

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    Apr 11th 2019, 3:29 PM

    @Marg FitzGerald: Play the Ball not the Player – “..I did not share MHR views…” what are you like! John Delaney needs to go and their is no excuse from his dubious governing of the FAI

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    Apr 11th 2019, 5:20 PM

    @Marg FitzGerald: civility and impoliteness are Societal formalities used as tools to deny real agency.

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    Apr 12th 2019, 7:08 AM

    @Marg FitzGerald: so you’d stay in Ireland for 12 years bankrupt rather than take a ferry and get rid of it quicker? Ya…..

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    Mute Thomas Devlin
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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:20 PM

    Healed-Rea. a gombeen man surely not!!!

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    Apr 11th 2019, 6:16 PM

    @Thomas Devlin: “oil give you me ceap john if youuuu give may another pitch ,simples. A strong support will defineetly falla”

    Selfish parish pump politician.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:41 PM

    What ever about Healy-Rea. Yates is some man to preach, fecked off to Wales for a bankruptesy holiday and saddled us taxpayers with millions of his debt.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:54 PM

    @Doubtchya Boy!: I don’t like Yates either but that has nothing to do with what’s going on here. This whataboutry is the reason nothing ever changes in this country.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:01 PM

    @SidNolan: i dont like either of them. Thats the problem with this country. You’ve one sciving b* sterd calling another this that and the other.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:28 PM

    S-N-A-K-E-S them Healy Rae’s

    Delaney out

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:53 PM

    Delaney is a weasel who never served soccer in Ireland well he looked after himself and others like him while grassroots soccer suffered , he went around the country last year handing out money like Santa Claus trying to drum up support for himself
    Cork schoolboys league stood up to him a number of years ago and schoolboy teams suffered in cork all bar one team from cork withdrew from the national cup over his carry on and there was nothing about it , I’m glad that the country finally see what he’s like I have zero respect for that man about time that he was found out

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:43 PM

    @Finbarr Whelan: A football person like yourself, look what he did to Shelbourne FC. Tried to bury them. DDSL got hammered as well. it is a dictatorship and all the promises about the Genesis report he made and none of it happened.
    How do I know, easy I read it. The journo who got it was a friend of mine.
    MHR was right he is loved in places he bought their votes with grants and seats on councils etc.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:42 PM

    I’ve no time for Yates but he was dead right here. MHR is a disgrace and a national embarrassment.

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    Mute Shane Lad
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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:26 PM

    All the Healy Rae’s are snakes

    Delaney out

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:44 PM

    Yates is an ex TD with his government pensions who when he was declared bankrupt went to live in Wales and he has the cheek to criticize others. Say what ye like about the HealyRaes but they’ll fight on their backs for their constituents and are very clever politicians. Look at last night and what their voters see ……… there’s our man fighting tooth and nail for us and the bullies up there in Dublin media are constantly having a go at him. It’s like a football team creating a siege mentality……. them up there and us poor divils in Kerry (I’m not Kerry by the way )

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:56 PM

    @Eamonn O Connell: They want to legalise drink driving because they own a pub. Just because kerry people are stupid enough to buy their BS doesn’t make them any less of conmen.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:57 PM

    @Eamonn O Connell: like a lot of others he was screwed by the banks. Neither he or his wife took money out of his bookies business. Treated his employees very well. Unlucky that Govt scuppered sale of his business through a betting tax. Barney Eastwood sold his chain in the North for 350million.
    He had to go to Wales because of the stupid bankruptcy laws here.
    Read his book to give yourself a better understanding of his predicament.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:15 PM

    @David Glynn: Poor Ivan, you are having a laugh, he went for the money and lost. Banks fault. They forced the loans on him did they. His greed showed through the same with them all

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:17 PM

    @SidNolan: bit of a generalization there sid to say Kerry people are stupid. They vote for people who get stuff done for them and it’s the same the country over Minister Ross got in by saying he’d reopen step aside Garda station. All politics is local you know

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:27 PM

    @David Glynn: imagine the banks calling in their loans and seizing assets in lieu of same. And the poor bookies who never make a bob from the misery they cause now being taxed. There are plenty of cases deserving sympathy but Mr Yates isn’t one he had loads but wanted more and it failed

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:25 PM

    Wasn’t Yates on Newstalk a couple weeks ago defending Delaney ?

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:31 PM

    I have no time for Yates but I tip my hat to him here. Well said Yates

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:20 PM

    Clown and a hypocrite, you decide which one is which

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:57 PM

    Must be a few soccer pitch grass cutting contracts in the mix . Strictly business

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    Mute Shane Lad
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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:27 PM

    Snakes them Healy Rae’s

    Delaney out

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:23 PM

    “a few quid for a few goalies’ net in Kerry” PMSL. Mot a fan of Yates, but he’s spot on there

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:28 PM

    I have little time for Yeats or Healy Rae. Yet, ironically they are both right here: Yeats is a “bully” and Healy Rae was “obsequious” towards a stone-walling Delaney. This incident shows much of what is rotten in both the media and in politics today.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:19 PM

    Healy Rae was a disgrace yesterday and the fact that hes not embarrassed by how he went on says it all about him,so because Delaney helped a few smaller clubs out that means it’s ok for him to not answer genuine questions about the money and other things going on at the fai,should be a mass boycott of the fai now

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:55 PM

    Must say i find it just a bit strange when a group of current and ex politicians are questioning anybody about wasting public money or governance of same, Talk about the kettle calling the pot black, What about the salaries and un vouched expenses paid to politicians, not to mention the obscene pensions been handed out like confetti, and of course the old golden hand shake, at time of retirement, Talk a cartel, and political parties making and breaking all the rules on a regular basis, Not exactly leading by example are they, At end of day John Delaney put money into the association, not take it out, Not to many politicians if any could say the same thing.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:33 PM

    Is that the same Healy-Rae thst co-hosted the show a few weeks back?

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:39 PM

    Good man healy rae- Delaney is man for the little man. Of course the elite don’t like him.

    Je suis John

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    Apr 11th 2019, 3:20 PM

    It was great tv. Well done to both of them.Just watch the ratings go up and the votes mount up .Win Win!

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:22 PM

    Lol

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:31 PM

    All looked acted out to me…

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    Apr 11th 2019, 1:23 PM

    There’s no time for tea! It’s Michael Healy-Rea!

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    Apr 11th 2019, 6:01 PM

    A gombeen elected by gombeens.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 3:42 PM

    Both were performing, I’d say they were laughing about while having a pint afterwards

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    Apr 11th 2019, 7:04 PM

    Healy Rae showed himself to be a lot more courteous than Yates. The unpopular fact is that Delaney is not accountable to the Dáil committee and was perfectly within his rights to decline to answer questions. Someone should be asking why the committee are wasting their publicly funded time on issues where they have no competence or authority. Delaney correctly cited the Kerins case, which established that Oireachtas committees are not above the law and must stay within their remit.
    The Murphy TD on radio this morning was shockingly incompetent. She argued at one point that the FAI, according to her bird-brained slant, is run on public money because people buy tickets and shirts, and therefore answerable to the Dáil. If that’s her grasp of public funding, give me MHR 100 times over.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 8:10 PM

    Don’t always agree with Ivan but he was spot on there !

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    Apr 11th 2019, 6:48 PM

    Yates was bang out of order. I agree with his general opinion on the matter but you don’t invite a person onto the show, then rip into them in that manner.
    Yates trying to go one better than Hook

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:13 PM

    Absolute bunch of inbred rednecks the Healy Raes

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    Apr 11th 2019, 7:47 PM

    Jesus delany gave the FAI 100′ooo to help them out. Whats the big deal. Yates left the country owing millions. Bigger monster altogether

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    Apr 11th 2019, 9:56 PM

    Ivan well done!!!

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    Apr 11th 2019, 6:57 PM

    I HATE soccer BUT FAI needs to be scrapped and start over

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    Mute Liam Dunne
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    Apr 11th 2019, 6:15 PM

    Better that than those nasties in the ERG in London. Screwing everybody to make themselves rich from trade deals that will only favour themselves and their pals.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 4:02 PM

    Bang on well said

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    Apr 11th 2019, 2:08 PM

    Good man Ivan, someone needs to shut them idiots up

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    Apr 12th 2019, 8:25 AM

    I think Ivan is a great business man. I am happy to pay the debts that Ivan walked away from. There are lots of failures like Ivan who lecture us in how we should live our personal lives but in reality they cannot manage their own lives.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 11:27 PM

    How much of the FAI money comes from the state ??

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    Apr 12th 2019, 7:19 AM

    @Martin Quinn: 2,900,000 euros p.a

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    Apr 13th 2019, 5:40 PM

    @Quentin Moriarty:

    Thanks for that

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    Apr 12th 2019, 11:49 AM

    The two Healy-Rea’s are nearly played out at this stage, people are few up and tired looking at them and listening to them mostly talking rubbish. I believe that they are not taken seriously in the Dail either. But it appears that they have a big following in Kerry. F F and FG need to get a few very high profile candidates down there and oust them.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 9:25 PM

    Rich coming from Ivan. Arrogant idiot. Thinks he is some sort of an expert. Return your big FG pension. Don’t use our state and then escape to England. Bigger picture guys.

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    Apr 11th 2019, 5:20 PM

    Surprised Healy rae hasn’t grown a big red nose by now.big ignorant clown.

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