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Labour accused of using abortion as 'cover to deflect from Budget'

Pro-life group the Life Institute said that James Connolly “must be turning in his grave”.

LABOUR HAS BEEN accused of using the abortion issue as cover for ‘betrayal of working people’ by pro-life group the Life Institute.

The Life Institute said that the party has used the abortion issue to “deflect from the fact that it has supported a Budget that will implement savage cuts on some of the most vulnerable people in society”.

Spokeswoman Niamh Uí Bhriain said that ” James Connolly must be turning in his grave” because Labour representatives are “calling for abortion” while the Budget is “forcing austerity on the people”.

Uí Bhriain said that Labour “most likely thought it opportune to emphasise its support for abortion to shore up support from liberal voters” as the Budget was being passed.

She said that it was a “foolish and ill-advised strategy, given that Labour’s vote had fallen after it openly supported abortion legislation in Election 2011″.

However, she said, pushing for abortion legislation offered Labour “a distraction from its betrayal of working families”.

It’s as if they are saying: ‘we’ve slashing payments to carers and children but, hey, we’re still in favour of abortion, so if you’re a well-heeled liberal we know we’ll still get your vote

During the Dáil debate over ULA Deputy Clare Daly’s abortion bill, Labour deputies spoke out in their support for legislating for abortion as recommended in the Supreme Court ruling in the X Case.

The bill was voted down, but Labour TD Ann Phelan said after the defeat that the party “has not voted against the idea of legislating for abortion”.  She said the party is determined to act on the Expert Group report on abortion.

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    Mute Leo Massey
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    Jun 5th 2019, 12:23 PM

    ESB made an operating profit of €445 million last year.
    They can fix their own problems please.

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    Mute Peter Hughes
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    Jun 5th 2019, 12:37 PM

    @Leo Massey: Correct and this ripoff given the green light as usual by our wonderful government…..a country of 5 million making profits of half a billion…..unreal.

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    Mute Darren Byrne
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    Jun 5th 2019, 12:48 PM

    @Leo Massey: They’re state owned. The profits go to the government. The money still comes from the same place in the end.

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    Mute Newsreader
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    Jun 5th 2019, 12:49 PM

    @Leo Massey: you are talking about ESB Group and final profit after exceptional item, interest and tax was €60m

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    Mute Vincent #SaveDaredevil
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    Jun 5th 2019, 12:49 PM

    @Peter Hughes: Was at one point we had one of the cheapest electric in Europe then was increased to allow other companies to come into the market. Well done FF

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    Mute Darren Byrne
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    Jun 5th 2019, 12:58 PM

    @Vincent #SaveDaredevil: and your proof for this claim?

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    Mute John R
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    Jun 5th 2019, 2:28 PM

    @Vincent #SaveDaredevil: Yes it was the cheapest electricity in the EU at one point. But “competition” was introduced. This resulted in the ESB as it was then being obliged to raise prices so that private competitors could undercut them due to the small scale of the Irish market. It also reduced the cost effectiveness of the then ESB due to reduced scale. It has delivered precious little to the Irish public except the illusion of price competition in a tiny market with a widely dispersed population. Thank goodness they decided not to privatise the national grid. Competition is usually a good thing but, in my view, electricity generation in a tiny market like Ireland is as close to a natural monopoly as it gets. So regulate the public monopoly and don’t introduce faux competition.

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    Mute Darren Byrne
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    Jun 5th 2019, 4:09 PM

    @John R: The market was opened to competition in 2009. The ESB were not allowed to lower prices until it had lost a significant amount of customers to other suppliers. This happened in 2011 and the ESB were allowed set their own prices. They also had to change their name to Electric Ireland at the time. https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/cheaper-bills-are-on-way-as-esb-sets-own-prices-26710661.html
    People saying we had the cheapest rates don’t seem to be able to produce evidence. It was a state owned company that generated revenue for the government. I’m sure they were nice however and rat it at a huge loss.

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    Mute OpenLitterMap
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    Jun 5th 2019, 12:20 PM

    Map and share data on any kind of pollution anywhere @ OpenLitterMap.com – the data is accessible to everyone as open data so citizens can make sure local authorities are doing their job.

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    Mute Wild Goose
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    Jun 5th 2019, 12:19 PM

    The ESB doesn’t have the money to change these oil filled cables which have given great service for a great many years. Newer PVC type insulation cables have no maintenance whatsoever and if the Regulator gives money to the ESB to change out these old cables, the ESB would do it no problem.

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    Mute Vincent #SaveDaredevil
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    Jun 5th 2019, 12:35 PM

    @Wild Goose: Sorry but they hit this for years. They made 445 million last year!!!!

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    Mute Darren Byrne
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    Jun 5th 2019, 12:44 PM

    @Vincent #SaveDaredevil: is that ESB networks that made that money or Electric Ireland which is a different company.

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    Mute Darren Byrne
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    Jun 5th 2019, 12:47 PM

    @Vincent #SaveDaredevil: Also you do realise that since its state owned the profits are handed to the government. it doesn’t really matter if its the ESB or the government who pays for it

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    Mute Newsreader
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    Jun 5th 2019, 12:50 PM

    @Vincent #SaveDaredevil: ESB Group made that figure. Also after exceptional items, interest and tax it was €60m for the Group.

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    Mute Vincent #SaveDaredevil
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    Jun 5th 2019, 12:51 PM

    @Darren Byrne: But will anyone be sacked for hiding this for years????

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    Mute betterman
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    Jun 5th 2019, 1:58 PM

    @Vincent #SaveDaredevil: here come the uneducated, shouting ill thought out baseless statements.

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    Mute John R
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    Jun 5th 2019, 2:30 PM

    @Vincent #SaveDaredevil: They didn’t hide it. They reported it to the body they were obliged to report it to.

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    Jun 5th 2019, 12:49 PM

    FYI you can thank the Labour party for enacting the protected disclosures act 2014 which allowed Mr. McLoughlin his civil protections.

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    Jun 5th 2019, 1:37 PM

    This is disgusting. A semi-state knowingly polluting waterways but deciding that it’s not in the public’s interest to disclose such information. Wouldn’t it be nice to have government organisations that lead by example. If the government don’t care, why should anyone else? A case of “do as we say, not as we do”?

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    Mute John R
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    Jun 5th 2019, 2:33 PM

    @Shakka1244: The ESB has being reporting on this to the regulator for years. The reason this is in the news is that RTE picked up on it and the ESB are now taking to the EPA. whom they had not informed. The question is whose job was it to report this problem to the EPA? The ESB? The regulator? Or both of them? Or perhaps there is no statutory requirement to report it to the EPA at all which would seem most peculiar.

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    Jun 5th 2019, 3:19 PM

    I fail to see the controversy in this. They used the common practice of the time when installing these cables, with non toxic biodegradable oils, newer maintenance free options are becoming available and these will be changed out over the coming years. There is no secrecy, only non awareness by the non technical public. I’d be surprised if the EPA if had not always considered and counted this as known source of soil contamination. That is a question that needs answering.
    The continuous replacement at such a high level is surprising though, that might negate any biodegradability benefit. Have they worked out how much per year per cubic meter of effected soil? Or how low that needs to be effectively broken down? Or how flooding plays into it all?

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    Mute Josh Hanners
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    Jun 5th 2019, 2:52 PM

    Expect whopping great increases in electricity bills, have to pay for the new cables.

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    Mute John Lynch
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    Jun 5th 2019, 10:45 PM

    The oil filled cables are topped up from supply tanks at sub-stations.
    Oil leakage was no secret but the ESB were hardly going to go boasting about it.

    This looks like a flash in the pan sensation reporting.
    BTW 1,000 m3 over 20 years over the whole country.
    Does that count for much? I’d say there is more disposed into drains and back gardens every week.

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    Mute Towger
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    Jun 5th 2019, 2:31 PM

    They claim most was mineral oil, but these are old cables from when PCB was commonly used for electrical insulation and cooling:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polychlorinated_biphenyl
    https://www.epa.ie/pubs/forms/surveys/PCB%20Information%20Leaflet.pdf

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    Mute Chemical Brothers
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    Jun 5th 2019, 6:16 PM

    Ha like the missing 100,000 litres of JetA1 from #IrishAirCorps fuel farm that EPA, kept quiet about.

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    Mute Dave Byrne
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    Jun 5th 2019, 7:21 PM

    @Chemical Brothers: That be 3 Tanker loads very hard to hide 3 tankers.

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    Mute Alan
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    Jun 6th 2019, 3:30 PM

    Perhaps they should investigate the utter waste of money at ESB. While charging customers increases they regularly spend outrageous amounts sending staff away, nights out and bonuses.

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    Mute Denis McClean
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    Jun 6th 2019, 12:40 AM

    Were we Irish born incompetent, or just blind to it?

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    Mute Rory J Leonard
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    Jun 6th 2019, 8:15 AM

    @Denis McClean:

    Olive oil has many uses but it’s is a fairly new phenomena here in cooking.

    The extra virgin variety is great for a massage, it has been reported.

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