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Mullen warns of 'double-think' on X Case after Newtown massacre

Rónán Mullen says it is “appropriate” to express sympathy with the shooting victims, but that unborn children should not be thought of differently.

SENATOR RÓNÁN MULLEN has warned his Seanad colleagues not to slip into “double-think” in condemning last week’s shootings in Newtown, Connecticut while also advocating the introduction of a new legal framework for abortion.

Speaking in the Seanad this afternoon, the NUI senator said he was ‘troubled’ that children’s minister Frances Fitzgerald, speaking in the Dáil yesterday on the report of the Expert Group into the A, B and C case, had not mentioned the welfare of unborn children.

Mullen was speaking after several other senators, in the Seanad’s first day back after the weekend, had expressed shock and sympathy at Friday’s events at Sandy Hook elementary school in Newtown in which 27 people, including 20 young children, were shot dead.

“I find entirely appropriate that we would join in solidarity with the people, with the children who died in Connecticut,” Mullen said. “Let’s be sincere about that.

“And let’s not slip into a double-think either, however, where we forget a whole category of children in our own country.

“The government has a very serious decision to make in these weeks and months on the abortion issue, as we all know.

“I find it very troubling that having done so well as Minister for Children, that Minister Frances Fitzgerald – in her speech yesterday – appeared to show no concern for unborn children,” he said, prompting heckles and jeers from members on the government benches.

Moving onto yesterday’s comments from the UN special rapporteur on the right to health, Anand Grover, who had told RTÉ News that abortions should be available to women not only where their lives were at risk, but also where their health could be adversely affected.

Grover had said what had happened to Savita Halappanavar, the Indian woman who died at a Galway hospital in October after being refused a termination of her stillborn foetus, “would never happen in India”.

“How dare we call Ireland’s maternal care into question and make comparisons to India,” asked Mullen, “when India is in fact a death trap for women in terms of maternal care?”

This prompted further scorn from the government benches, with Labour’s Susan O’Keeffe asking: “And how could you link the children in Connnecticut to this debate? How could you do that?”

Mullen said he wished “to promote a culture of best care for mother and children – two patients.”

The Cabinet this morning discussed its plan of action on how to respond to the Expert Group’s report, and is expected to recommend a ‘legislation plus regulations’ approach to addressing the legal uncertainty in the area.

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    Mute Franklin Roosevelt
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    Dec 29th 2017, 12:08 PM

    “It’s not necessary to censor the news, it’s sufficient to delay the news until it no longer matters” – Napoleon

    These 30 year secrecy rules do not serve the interests of the people of Ireland.

    They only protect the elites from accountability.

    Why do you think they chose 30 years?

    Because most politicians are in power in their 50′s and 60′s, and by the time 30 years has elapsed, they’re either too old to be jailed, or dead.

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    Dec 29th 2017, 12:15 PM

    @Franklin Roosevelt:
    IF (a big if) the rumours about King Gerry are true it makes one think about the timing of his stepping down.

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    Mute John003
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    Dec 29th 2017, 12:34 PM

    @Franklin Roosevelt: In any government as in any large business have to have some secrecy…Cant publish every cabinet discussion that day for instance…Or every ministeral email…It would damage trust in the government… 30 years seems ok….

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    Mute Franklin Roosevelt
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    Dec 29th 2017, 1:14 PM

    @P.J. Nolan: who is King Gerry? I know of no monarch with that name.

    And what are the rumours?

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    Dec 29th 2017, 1:22 PM

    @John003: I’m not asking for that.

    But for the big decisions… like what was the correspondence of the government between 2008 and 2010? When Ireland issued a blanket bank guarantee, then forced us to pay a 150 billion debt.

    Surely it’s in our interest to know all the details of that? And not wait until 2040 to find out.

    And what about the friendship that bankers had with Brian Cowan?

    In the 1930′s, when businessmen and politicians colluded, it was called fascism.

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    Dec 29th 2017, 2:00 PM

    @P.J. Nolan: and do you believe these rumours spreaded by a priest?

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    Dec 29th 2017, 3:12 PM

    @John003: time to release the Dublin Monaghan bombing files so

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    Dec 29th 2017, 12:33 PM

    ’87 – Cov city won the FA cup

    Glad they were able to maintain their form :(

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    Dec 29th 2017, 2:32 PM

    The current car registration system in Ireland started in 1987

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    Dec 29th 2017, 12:44 PM

    I was born 3 years later so i am going to let myself away with that disastrous score.

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    Dec 29th 2017, 9:14 PM

    @Con O’Driscoll: I can’t work out how you were two different ages in the same year…. I’ve tried to do the equation several times and it just doesn’t seem possible. Please inform us mere mortals of your ingenious reasoning!!!

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    Dec 30th 2017, 1:00 AM

    @Paul Linehan: because he was 3 for the first part of the year and 4 after his bday…

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    Dec 30th 2017, 5:50 AM

    @Karen NíDhochartaigh: That makes perfect sense now, thanks Karen….

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    Dec 29th 2017, 3:44 PM

    The Reagan question answer is wrong. Mr Gorbachev tear down this wall was in 1987. Not the answer given in the question

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    Dec 29th 2017, 2:56 PM

    I was at Slane and Bowie that year. It was pretty damn good !!!

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    Dec 29th 2017, 5:58 PM

    @Catherine Sims: Oh, I hated missing it in Slane so much, the Glass Spider tour. But I got to see him play in Wembley that year! I always envied older people who saw him years ago, & never thought he’d hit the road again. It was great to hear him live.

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    Dec 29th 2017, 6:34 PM

    Had my first ciggie in 1987 , puked outside the exam hall lol

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    Dec 29th 2017, 4:36 PM

    8/10 and I only turned 9 that year.

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    Dec 29th 2017, 6:00 PM

    5/10. Hard to believe that more people went to see Three Men and a Baby than Good Morning Vietnam. I doubt those figures.

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    Dec 29th 2017, 6:32 PM

    @Fiona Fitzgerald: it had magnum P.I and Sam from cheers left minding a baby. Definatly the safest movie of the 4 for families at that time. The other 3 are movies that still have appeal to this day, no one of any age or gender could be arsed sitting through 3 men and a baby now.

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