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Serious road collision in north Dublin

It is understood that a woman has been taken to hospital with serious injuries.

GARDAÍ IN FINGLAS are at the scene of a serious road collision on the North Road in Finglas, Dublin.

In crash took place inbound at the pedestrian lights at the the junction of Charlestown Way and North Road.

A woman involved in the collision has been taken to hospital with serious injuries. Gardaí are advising motorists to use alternative routes and diversions are in place.

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    Mute Terry Cunningham
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    Jun 18th 2015, 6:57 AM

    What is wrong with people??

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    Mute The Todd
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    Jun 18th 2015, 10:04 AM

    It’s them white men, they are all the same. Sadistic stuff

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    Jun 18th 2015, 10:27 AM

    Did I say white man, sorry I forgot you’re only allowed to stereotype and generalise when it’s something you’re not…

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    Jun 18th 2015, 10:46 AM

    If anything the opposite is true, you can say what you like about white men and only white men

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    Jun 18th 2015, 10:52 AM

    If only that were true, sure racism and islamaphobia doesn’t exist

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    Jun 18th 2015, 11:39 AM

    Todd do a Rachel Dolezal an transition to a black Muslim.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 11:42 AM

    We’d be inundated with generalisations about the black community if roles were reversed in this case.
    Accusations would be levelled at them that they incited this crime with their protesting against racism and that ‘race baiters’ have blood on their hands.
    Rationalisations of police brutality would manifest with suggestions like “This shows you what the police have to put up with”

    While of course the vast majority of Americans will sympathise with the victims in this case, they’ll simply dismiss it as an isolated incident completely separate from police brutality. But these two issues are interlinked because racism is a contributor in both. Before the issue of racism can be addressed the hegemonic group in their society (white people) have to acknowledge its prevalence and then help to confront it.

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    Mute Shawn Rahoon
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    Jun 18th 2015, 1:24 PM

    93% of African Americans are killed by African Americans.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 2:01 PM

    The same holds true for white Americans. Whenever a homicide is committed it is usually between people associated with each other, the vast majority of white Americans killed are also killed by a member of the same race.

    This article is concerning racism and hate crime, which disproportionately affects black people in America, which stands to reason considering their racist history.

    “In 2010, law enforcement agencies reported that 3,725 single-bias hate crime offenses were racially motivated. Of these offences: 70 percent were motivated by anti-black bias.”

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    Mute Dave O Keeffe
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    Jun 18th 2015, 2:21 PM

    Shawn, you left out a few words. The majority of African Americans that are murdered are killed by African Americans. The correct wording makes it an entirely different stat.

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    Mute Le Tigre
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    Jun 18th 2015, 6:05 PM

    I’d imagine whoever came up with that stat wasn’t looking at Africa, Asia or South America

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    Jun 18th 2015, 6:07 PM

    You’d imagine right id say, considering we’re talking about America

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    Jun 18th 2015, 6:28 PM

    Oh I forgot that murders outside America aren’t really murders

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    Jun 18th 2015, 6:48 PM

    Le Tigre: I agree, that was a stat from the FBI pertaining to America.

    However there’s ample evidence of racism in those continents too from both America and Europe.

    European colonialism was brutal to the indigenous populations of Africa exploiting, killing and subjugating them in the pursuit of imperial supremacy. The effects of it are still felt today.

    In Western Asia the United States and its allies illegally invaded another country and killed thousands in the process. The United States also supports the apartheid state in the region which just last year killed over 2000 Palestinians. More instances of racism.

    As for Latin America, the United States was involved in that region for decades trying to control and manipulate it, most notably Cuba and attempted to overthrow the Castro government but was defeated and humiliated. They then resorted to imposing a vicious blockade, a form of economic warfare on Cuba which had disastrous consequences for its people.

    So yes, the state of America hasn’t only been responsible for racism on its own shores, but across the globe. Thanks for bringing that to our attention.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 8:13 PM

    @Monty Wuggy. Why take the 2010 figs. when later data is available for 2014?
    In 2014 the figs. for single-bias is 66.4% anti black and 21.4% for anti white.
    Almost one third by blacks even though they comprise just over one eight of the total population.
    Where does the most racism lie here?

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    Jun 18th 2015, 8:52 PM

    How dare black people who are discriminated against and oppressed merely because they are black be prejudiced against their white oppressors!

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    Jun 18th 2015, 9:06 PM

    Lets just wait to see what meds he was on before we play the blame game.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 9:06 PM

    Notice the White boy was captured and not shot dead!

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    Jun 18th 2015, 9:08 PM

    Pat: Thanks for providing the most recent statistics. Your logic is twisted though, the fact black people account for such a small portion of the population yet are the ones most commonly abused because of their race actually is an indictment of America. You also have to recognise the data isn’t entirely accurate, hate-crime is notorious for being under-reported because of the distrust African Americans rightly have with law enforcement.

    I don’t condone anti-white racism but I also don’t try and make the false equivalence to racism against African Americans which is institutional and ingrained in American society since its inception. Most of the wealth in America is concentrated quite disproportionately in the hands of white people, even white people today who had no influence on the racism of their forebears have been beneficiaries of it.

    Do black people at times feel indignation at white people? Yes, but it’s not misplaced, it’s a product of more than a century of racism committed against them.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 9:21 PM

    And shortly, we will have the NRA Supporters telling us, that having the right to have Automatic and Semi-Automatic available to handle and to buy , starting, when one is a child, is some type of devine right – Well I consider the supposed right , to carry weapons of any kind and size – Terrorism – just like ISIS etc !

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    Jun 18th 2015, 9:24 PM

    Shawn – What % of African American men and women , are incarcerated as opposed to a % of Caucasian men and women ?

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    Jun 18th 2015, 10:02 PM

    And that is because

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    Jun 18th 2015, 10:19 PM

    @terry, inbreeding, a lotta those hicks..or hillbillys are the products of incest, and moonshine

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    Jun 18th 2015, 10:38 PM

    When all is said and done, this was an unequivocally racist mass murder facilitated by easy access to guns.

    Racism and guns are an unhealthy and unsafe combination.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 10:52 PM

    @Ellie.. Are you confusing Arabs for Whites?
    9/11……3,000
    …….,Madrid……..191
    Buenos Aires……85
    London……………47!

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    Jun 18th 2015, 11:25 PM

    Not in this particular case , where a group of black people praying to their God in a church associated With the civil rights movement were mown down ,by a white man wearing emblems associated with white supremacy .
    100 % of these murders were committed by a white racist .

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    Jun 18th 2015, 11:30 PM

    Axis of Exxon/War on Secularism/Palestinian Purge: ~1,000.000+ and counting!

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    Jun 18th 2015, 11:32 PM

    Richard, correct and well said.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 11:47 PM

    a lack of education makes people easily brain washed I’d say he was gromed by some sick rasist group and let loose on society.

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    Jun 19th 2015, 12:11 AM

    @Monty Wuggy. Now you are blaming the Americans for killings in Latin America.
    There’s an ‘awful lot of cop- killing in Brazil’ too. Tell all how that’s the fault of US.

    -”SAO PAULO — Brazilian police killed more than 11,000 people between 2009 and 2013 for an average of six killings a day, a public safety NGO said Tuesday.

    The study by the Sao Paulo-based Brazilian Forum on Public Safety said police nationwide killed 11,197 people over the past five years, while law enforcement agents in the United States killed 11,090 people over the past 30 years.

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    Jun 19th 2015, 12:32 AM

    There are only 7% of African Americans left?! Oh No!

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    Jun 19th 2015, 1:16 AM

    There are only 7% of African Americans left?!

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    Jun 19th 2015, 4:58 AM

    Right so Monty, if Asians kill Asians then it’s white people who’re people are to blame.

    That’s what’s called the soft racism of low expectations

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    Jun 19th 2015, 6:03 AM

    Y’all don’t know what it’s like, being male, middle-class and White!

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    Jun 19th 2015, 8:12 AM

    100% of the people shot in that church where killed by a white man. Stats are great!

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    Jun 19th 2015, 8:15 AM

    it’s a b!tch, if you don’t believe listen up to my new CD, sham on. thanks for that rock

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    Jun 19th 2015, 9:12 AM

    And to think that us Irish were so incensed by the generalisation and inane comments about ‘drunken Irish’ in the media stories about the Berkeley tragedy this week . . . .

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    Jun 18th 2015, 7:05 AM

    if it was a white church they would be ‘terrorists’

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    Jun 18th 2015, 7:11 AM

    And if the attacker was anything but a “clean-shaven white male” they’d be a terrorist too.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 8:05 AM

    You idiot

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    Jun 18th 2015, 8:06 AM

    If it was a white church and a black shooter this wouldn’t be considered a hate crime I bet.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 8:08 AM

    I’m sure this will be considered a hate crime as well.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 8:18 AM

    Right coz there’s NOOOO bias in the media or police right? It’s not like police showed up to protests that were initially peaceful with tear gas, dogs and tanks while a bunch of predominantly white sports fans on a rampage because their team lost were left to run their course and not even confronted by police.

    It’s not like peaceful black protesters who didn’t kill anyone were labelled ‘thugs’ while white bikers who had a mass shootout resulting in nine deaths were never once referred to by any term other than ‘bikers’.

    It’s not like in the same week public figures were bending over backwards to defend a 14yr old white Republican’s molestation of his young sisters, they claimed that a 14yr old black girl must have done something to deserve being thrown to the ground by her hair with a knee in her back and a gun drawn.

    You can see this on a near daily basis, the videos of police shooting unarmed black men in the back, then planting evidence on them and claim it’s a post-racial America? You’re in some serious denial.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 8:33 AM

    I was responding to the comment that said race relations had gotten worse in America, not better which is clearly the case. Minorities in America have a lot of social and economic problems, in spite of this they have made progress over the decades and in sure that will continue.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 9:48 AM

    Well said Bryan. It’s beyond shocking now at this stage. If white Americans are not out protesting about these police shootings with their African American neighbours then I’m sorry but they are either racist or they just don’t give a shit.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 10:48 AM

    Remember all those Muslims protested against the July 7th bombings, the Madrid bombings, and Bali? Me neither. They must support it so.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 8:39 PM

    I do remember Muslims denouncing those acts yes. I also remember Muslims matching in Paris earlier this year, what’s your point? All white people aren’t out protesting the shooting in Charleston, does that mean we support it?

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    Jun 18th 2015, 9:00 PM

    @Bryan Kelly. Use your Google.

    When a Black Cop Killed an Innocent White Man in Utah …
    freedomoutpost.com/…/black-cop-killed-innocent-white-man-utah-press-…
    Aug 21, 2014 – America needs to find answers, because this racial divide is moronic. … He was a white kid, 20 years old, who was killed by a black cop on …

    White teen Gilbert Collar killed by black cop Trevis Austin in …
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/…/white-teen-gilbert-collar-killed-by-black-c…;
    Nov 27, 2014 – Preferences. A U.S. soldier trains an Iraqi security forces member in a shooting drill in Taji,. Security … White teen killed by black cop in Alabama mirrors Ferguson. Officer Trevis Austin …. Child stars: Then and now. Shares.

    Black Officer Shoots White Man, No Media Outrage – Mr …
    mrconservative.com/…/48057-black-officer-shoots-white-man-no-media…
    Black Officer Shoots White Man, No Media Outrage. Like this article? … When police arrived, they noticed a group of three boys, one of whom (Taylor), matched the description given in the 911 call

    Etc.,Etc.Etc.

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    Jun 19th 2015, 12:00 AM

    The incident here was about a white supremacist massacring 9 defenceless black people during religious worship.

    There were no black cops involved in the atrocity.

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    Jun 19th 2015, 12:26 PM

    Those white supremacists hate a lot of groups apart from the blacks but they love and worshipp the peadophile Adolf hitler, therefore they must all be peados themselves

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    Jun 18th 2015, 8:00 AM

    The US must be one of the only countries in the world where race relations have actually worsened in the last 50 years

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    Jun 18th 2015, 8:07 AM

    Except they have a black President and black people dominate their media through music and sport. They have a lot of problems but some would argue that America is post racist.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 8:11 AM

    He is not a black president. He has a white and a black parent. That would make him a mixed race president.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 9:52 AM

    I think in the U.S, even if you have some black in you, you are considered ‘black’…

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    Jun 18th 2015, 10:13 AM

    Fisics, if someone was to describe Barack Obama based on a photo with no prior knowledge, would they say “he has one white parent and one black parent” or would they describe him as African American?

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    Jun 18th 2015, 11:03 AM

    @beano.. I think you will find your incorrect no matter how much the journal tries to push the agenda. A WHITE MAN…. why couldn’t the shooter be a male.. that is an inflammatory way to start an articlel and immediately puts race relations in the readers mind. you will not find the journal start an article with a black man, or Hispanic man or even gay man in capital letters for a story such as this

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    Jun 18th 2015, 11:12 AM

    Dave, I’d imagine they’d say mixed race. Everything can’t be broken down to black or white, otherwise a whole diversity of people would be ignored.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 12:13 PM

    @Mark Ryan

    Mark – the killer is still on the loose and being hunted. While this is the case, every single report will start with a description of the suspected killer.

    The first two characteristics stated in every description of every suspected killer are race and gender. White and male in this case.

    Failure to report the profile of the suspected killer would be pushing a far bigger agenda than reporting it.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 1:10 PM

    They were worse in the 60′s and don’t let the media cod you on that. Imagine all the crime and murders of African Americans that went un-reported back in those days.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 1:31 PM

    fisics, on first look he’s African American.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 7:16 PM

    Yeah apparently it’s something called the ‘one drop theory’ interesting to read about, Halle berry has said she subscribes to it

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    Jun 18th 2015, 8:27 PM

    @Beano. ……According to Gallup polls race-relations have been improving, in the US, this last 50 yrs.
    “Gallup polling over the course of the last 50 years measures the trajectory of how blacks and whites view one another. Since Gallup started recording data on race relations in 1963, the trend has been an undeniably positive one.”http://www.mediaite.com/online/race-relations-in-america-improving-every-year-and-the-media-hates

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    Jun 18th 2015, 10:29 PM

    @david you’re a real idiot if ever there was one. What a silly comment

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    Jun 18th 2015, 11:53 PM

    They categorically would if it were: A Muslim man attacking a Synagogue; a Jewish man attacking a Mosque; a black man attacking an all-white church; a Catholic attacking a Protestant Church; a Protestant attacking a Catholic Church. Particularly when the perpetrator is acting on a belief of supremacy over and hatred for his victims due to race or creed. Race is the entire focal point of the story. It was a racist terror attack, so the race of both perpetrator and victims is key.

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    Jun 19th 2015, 12:07 AM

    Caylum, that is clear and correct.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 7:24 AM

    The NRA will say that all church goers and pastors must be armed to protect themselves.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 9:38 AM

    No doubt Paul and we’ll probably hear the usual chestnut the gun strokers regularly spout, that more people die on the roads in America than from guns, as if America is the only country in the world that has road fatalities?.

    America the mass shooting capital of the world by a country mile and rising!, I wonder why?.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 8:41 PM

    “of only someone in the church had an AK-47″ official NRA statement #notreally

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    Jun 18th 2015, 7:29 AM

    Probably carried out by a brainwashed neo nazi.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 9:44 AM

    Or a policeman by recent trends.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 10:48 AM

    No, it probably wasn’t a policeman

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    Jun 18th 2015, 7:58 AM

    I would not wish to be a black person in the USA.

    This incident is the tip of the tip of the iceberg of hate against black Americans.

    The ubiquity of guns and a culture in which guns are perceived as weapons of first resort and a disinhibition against gun use as a personal expression exacerbate that situation.

    Can you imagine the reaction if it had been a black person who committed this crime against a white congregation?
    There would be far more comments on this article on the Jiurnal, had that been so.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 7:08 AM

    The pastor, a state senator, is among the dead.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 7:56 AM

    It would be interesting to see what kind of policy’s this Senator endorsed or apposed and if he was favoured by those in power.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 8:08 AM

    @Glenard: I did read one report where he was described as “Beloved”. However, he was a Democrat, so the good ol’ boys in S.C. were probably not too fond of him.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 11:36 AM

    “The pastor, a state senator”

    So much for separation of Church and State. Still if people can’t be safe in a church. Sad for the families of the victims all the same.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 1:36 PM

    He was a democratically elected official, not sure you know what church/state separation means…

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    Jun 18th 2015, 8:18 AM

    Watched Selma last night which led to a chat with my American wife about the fact that as Ireland is moving forward and becoming a more progressive and inclusive society the USA seems to be slipping backwards.
    Really sad to see.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 8:04 AM

    Anthony
    Black people don’t carry out these sort of attacks on white people. They carry out these attacks on each other.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 11:02 AM

    According to the FBI’s most recent homicide numbers available, from 2011, a staggering 83 percent of white murder victims were killed by fellow Caucasians. White on white attacks are quite an issue, wouldn’t you agree?

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    Jun 18th 2015, 10:43 PM

    In the particulatr case, one white racist with access to guns murdered 9 black people.

    There appears to be a significant elelement of white supremacist irrationality in the US.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 8:28 AM

    Very sad. The racial issue just seems to be getting worse in the USA instead of getting better with time. In this day and age you would definitely think people would be moving forward with their thinking. What is wrong with these people at all ? It really does baffle me that there are people out there who can hate whole races of people just because of the colour of their skin. It’s madness. R.i.p to the victims.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 8:51 AM

    There’s little shortage of them that xeno-troll on here when the article allows them to indulge their blatant, self-defeating phobias…..yet, they will likely creep back under their rocks for a day or three in awe of this trailer park pointy-head!

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    Jun 18th 2015, 9:44 AM

    The problem with a America is the gun culture you can own a gun in some states before your legally aloud to drink in a bar.. #nosense

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    Jun 18th 2015, 1:01 PM

    Right now someone in America is typing “The problem with Ireland is the alcohol culture, you can drink in a bar before you can legally own a gun.. #nosense”

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    Jun 18th 2015, 3:05 PM

    Having a gun with 6 bullets is not the same as having a pint & 6 chicken wings you are aloud to have a gun and 6 bullets but not a pint & 6 chicken wings.. #nosense

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    Jun 18th 2015, 10:28 AM

    This is now regarded as a “hate crime ” ,if the gunman were a Muslim it would be “terrorism^. In other words when one American kills 9 other Americans because they are black the outrage is less than if a Muslim were to kill 9 Americans because they were Americans.Funny old logic isn’t it.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 10:51 AM

    Your logic is pretty funny too. Who decided that a “hate crime” arouses less condemnation than “terrorism”?

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    Jun 18th 2015, 11:11 AM

    The threat of Islamic terrorism in the United States has been wildly exaggerated to increase the power of the state. People are way more inclined to consent to aggrandising the state when there’s fear.

    The main terrorist threat in the United States is not from violent Muslim extremists, but from right-wing extremists. Just ask the police.”
    “Public debates on terrorism focus intensely on Muslims. But this focus does not square with the low number of plots in the United States by Muslims, and it does a disservice to a minority group that suffers from increasingly hostile public opinion. As state and local police agencies remind us, right-wing, anti-government extremism is the leading source of ideological violence in America.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/opinion/the-other-terror-threat.html

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    Jun 18th 2015, 11:10 PM

    @Monty Wuggy. You are out of touch with the facts. All kinds of terrorism is being plotted from within and without the US (and Canada,etc.) .
    Just yesterday another indictment of a terrorist with a track record who plotted a much bigger terror job in the US.
    “Phoenix – Authorities said that the man arrested on charges relating to the shooting at an anti-Islam event in Texas last month had aspirations to join the Islamic State group (ISIS) and attack a major US sports event.

    Abdul Malik Abdul Kareem, 43, was arrested for his alleged role in a shooting at a Prophet Muhammad cartoon contest that led to the deaths of two gunmen. Kareem hosted the shooters in his home beginning in January and provided the guns they used in the May 3 attack in Garland, Texas, according to a federal indictment.
    http://www.news24.com/World/News/FBI-Kareem-planned-Super-Bowl-attack-20150617

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    Jun 18th 2015, 11:32 PM

    Another singular example you’re highlighting to justify your own Islamaphobic agenda. Racism is defined as the cultural and social discrimination against a particular group, not one incident. Did you see the interview with the leader of that anti-Islam event and the specialist from the NSA. The organiser basically admitted that he wanted to do it because he believed 100% that ALL Arabs were terrorists, then admitted that his own actions as a U.S. soldier in Iraq had been in support of a terrorist government (shows the kind of logic these guys have). When the NSA specialist pointed out that actions such as the proposed anti-Islam event actually serve only to create more pro-ISIS/Anti-US individuals, again the organiser agreed and said that that’s exactly what he wanted. He actually said that he wanted to play into ISIS’s hands. Keep using all the cherry-picked isolated incidents and statistics you want, the simple fact is that people like the TERRORIST who committed the atrocity at this church, and the leader of that anti-Islam rally are the real ones perpetuating racism, and encouraging violence on their own soil.

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    Jun 19th 2015, 3:55 PM

    @Bryan K. You are mistaken about the ‘organizer’ being a ‘he’.She’s a she! Use a source when you comment……
    “Less than a day after two gunmen were shot and killed while trying to attack a Prophet Muhammad cartoon contest in Texas, Pamela Geller, the New York blogger who organized the contest, took to the Internet.
    “Here’s what the enemies of freedom sought to crush last night,” Ms. Geller wrote. “Truth and freedom.” She added, “They were crushed instead.”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/05/us/pamela-geller-organizer-of-muhammad-cartoon-contest-hails-results.html?

    As for my repost to Monty W.- it was appropriate and timely.
    Your charge of cherry-picking is rejected.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 8:14 AM

    Terry
    Why are you linking patriots with this nut job. Patriots don’t hate black people, they aren’t racist.
    Get your facts in order lad !

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    Jun 18th 2015, 8:21 AM

    That’s sarcasm, right?

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    Jun 18th 2015, 11:16 AM

    Depends on your interpretation of patriotism, Glen. White supremacists usually believe they’re fighting to save their country.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 6:50 PM

    So…It turns out he was indeed a “Patriot”. Confederate flag on his licence plate and all.
    He also belonged to a hate group.

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    Mute Mary Mc Carthy
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    Jun 18th 2015, 11:36 AM

    How many more tragedies are going to happen before the US are going to look at their gun laws. Innocent people gunned down by another madman

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    Jun 18th 2015, 8:35 PM

    Ya can argue all night about racism or sectarianism the fact remains there are 9 people dead and its a tragic thing. No matter what colour or creed

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    Jun 18th 2015, 10:32 PM

    The facts and circumstances point clearly and unequivocally to a racist motivation for the mass murders.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 7:59 AM

    I hope this is not another deranged atheist targeting the religious just like the Chapel Hill Shooting.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 8:11 AM

    Doubtful. Most likely carried out by a “good Christian patriot”.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 10:14 AM

    Not surprised to see the “Religion is under attack from those evil atheists” comment.

    Was it not about an argument over a parking space? That’s the other ridiculous interpretation they came up with instead of the most glaringly obvious one. His social media accounts were filled with anti-Islam rants.

    He killed three Muslims because he hated Muslims, not because he was an atheist.

    Equally, given the tensions in the local area and the fact the white suspect chose to attack an historically significant black church, the most likely interpretation is that this crime was racially motivated.

    I know religious people like to act like the whole world’s against them and they’re victims, despite being the most privileged group in society, but stop grasping at straws when the answer’s right in front of you.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 10:49 AM

    The chapel hill shootings arose from a personal disagreement

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    Jun 18th 2015, 8:43 PM

    Ya, he personally disagreed with their ability to draw breath

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    Jun 18th 2015, 11:38 PM

    @Bryan Kelly. The guy in the Chapel Hill triple killings,Craig S. Hicks, posted rants against all religions on Facebook and wasn’t paticularly hateful towards Muslim for he actually campaigned for the Ground Zero Mosque against the mosque’s opposers.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/chapel-hill-shooting-craig-stephen-hicks-condemned-all-religion

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    Jun 18th 2015, 6:51 PM

    Americas biggest problem is its the only developed country with a private prison system that must be kept at certain occupancy levels at all times and its the blacks who make up the majority of these inmates for often paltry crimes which would be no more than a fine over here. That’s racism at its finest. The 3 strikes and your out rule sees plenty of predominantly young black males having life sentences for being caught in possession of marijuana three times in their life… even though usage is even across all races. Off topic but you can understand their anger and frustration

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    Mute Seán Leahy
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    Jun 18th 2015, 5:57 PM

    If a black man had shot nine white people the police would not have captured him they would have shot him dead.

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    Mute Le Tigre
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    Jun 18th 2015, 6:06 PM

    They captured Tsarnaev. He’s not exactly blonde haired & blue eyed

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    Jun 18th 2015, 11:16 PM

    One of them.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 7:42 PM

    The shooter allegedly got the gun from his father for his 21st birthday. How many more must die before the US wake up to the fact that there is something wrong with their lack.of control over who carry guns.

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    Mute Anthony Lang
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    Jun 18th 2015, 9:18 PM

    Some of the emotionally unstable have a particular fascination with guns. It a form of fatal attraction.

    Not all gun obsessed people are emotionally unstable but some are and, with guns, they can ventilate their emotional expressiveness.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 1:28 PM

    Why did God let that happen in his house?

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    Jun 18th 2015, 9:23 AM

    It’s all part of the big plan!! Turn the races against one another and basically rights get taken away from the people handing more power over to the state in stilling more fear in people!! Problem > Reaction > Solution

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    Jun 18th 2015, 10:40 AM

    yup racism, a modern phenomenon.

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    Jun 19th 2015, 10:15 PM

    100 % correct and its working well.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 9:19 PM

    Chap could do with a haircut

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    Jun 19th 2015, 12:37 AM

    Literally just put a bowl on his head and let rip.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 11:16 PM

    I can see the NY Times editorial now… ‘This latest episode forces the question of why are there so many negroes in our great nation – America’. Yep – saw racism everywhere first hand when I lived there. Multicultural society – what a joke. Land of the Free – more like Land of the Fear. RIP and God bless the victims and their families.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 10:25 PM

    Interesting and brave of President Obama to address again the issue of guns, easy access to guns and the prevalent use of guns to a greater degree than in other civilised countries.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 5:08 PM

    Another lone white male shooter .

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    Jun 18th 2015, 5:13 PM

    With the same facial expressions as the sandy hook shooter and the cinema shooter .

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    Jun 18th 2015, 4:16 PM

    I have the utmost sympathy with the young people who died in Berkeley and their family and friends . I wonder though will we have the same outpourings of grief at the 9 people shot in cold blood while visiting Church,? Will the press cover it extensively ?, Will there be a public memorial service arranged ?. Will the government bodies offer all assistances. I doubt it. and if not why not .

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    Jun 19th 2015, 12:18 AM

    It’s ‘South’ Carolina, ya sillies. Spent my childhood days playing outside this church as my aunt lived next door.
    Will never forget how colorfully the ladies dressed, with their big hats you know they saved especially for church.

    My deepest sympathies to the victims and any minorities in Chucktown feeling unsafe.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 10:29 PM

    Clearly, it was a racistly motivated hate crime against the black victims. Easy access to guns facilated the commission of the mass murder.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 8:41 AM

    RACE WAAAAR…….White trash for cash!!

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    Jun 18th 2015, 5:55 PM

    I have to have a good long look at myself about this cus I think I feel the same if the race roles were reversed ,, I just simply Don’t Care, the world we live in has turned me into a cold hearted dumby , I’ve become numb to everything out there, how bloody sad am I, I just really don’t care , I need to reconnect with Real people in the Real world

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    Jun 18th 2015, 8:57 PM

    I’d say that yoke is a HUGE success with the ladies.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 9:17 PM

    another physcotic white guy goes on a rampage in the U.S.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 10:58 PM

    Another fascist simpleton doing the bidding of his rich masters.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 10:30 PM

    It would be interesting to know if there are statistics on racistly motivated murders in the US.

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    Jun 19th 2015, 12:34 PM

    Anthony, there was a study done during Bush 43 about domestic threats to peace that was suppressed by the Republicans, because most of the data was found to link to religious fundamentalist and white supremacist groups. It was released ca. 2007, if I recall correctly, and then was dredged up during Obama’s first term and he was, of course, blamed for its contents.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 9:59 PM

    That guy looks a little….unhinged to say the least! Creepy!

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    Jun 18th 2015, 10:14 PM

    He looks evil, he deserves the death penalty or be put in an all black prison and see how long he lasts without his previous guns to kill with.

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    Jun 19th 2015, 10:16 PM

    He looks drugged or controlled or both

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    Jun 18th 2015, 7:32 PM

    This is a tragedy! I’ve never understood the motivation behind all these wackos that feel the need to get some notoriety by killing others. I can’t help wondering how being detained and questioned will affect the life of that photographer who just happened to be wearing the wrong outfit! It shouldn’t, but you know that tons of people will see him in handcuffs but not read far enough to see that he was released! Here’s an interesting article about the pastor that was killed…
    http://theprosays.com/wp-content/plugins/clickpopengage/pop.php?id=2

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    Jun 19th 2015, 5:50 AM

    The race issue is secondary, the gun laws are the primary problem here!

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    Jun 19th 2015, 3:27 AM

    let bullets cost $1,000 each……

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    Jun 19th 2015, 8:03 AM

    I seen him getting nicely escorted out by police, and then you see them choking black people to death for selling smokes. gas

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    Jun 19th 2015, 1:14 AM

    Wow. He doesn’t look crazy at all.

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    Jun 18th 2015, 11:15 PM

    The Great NRA say it’s ok .

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    Jun 19th 2015, 12:04 AM

    The head on yer man.

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    Jun 19th 2015, 12:44 AM

    Jaysus thats a face only a mother could love. Until now.

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    Jun 19th 2015, 10:14 PM

    Why do the eyes of these killers all look the same?…like they are not in there?

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    Jun 19th 2015, 3:39 PM

    Looks like a header

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    Jun 19th 2015, 10:17 AM

    he looks like Lloyd from Dumb and Dumber

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