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McAdam Foods "shocked" to discover equine content was in its meat products

The company also said it supplied 60 tonnes of beef to Silvercrest foods, contrary to reports that it had supplied 170 tonnes.

MCADAM FOOD PRODUCTS has said it “had no awareness or knowledge whatsoever of any possibility of there being equine content in meat products” it imported or supplied.

It made the statement after it emerged that equine content was identified in products that were both imported and supplied through the Monaghan-based McAdam Foods, including to Silvercrest Foods.

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McAdam released a statement saying it “is a reputable and well run business and is compliant with all required food industry standards and regulations”.

The company, its management and staff are shocked and astonished to discover that equine content has been identified in products which have been imported and supplied through McAdam Foods.
The source of these products is Polish and McAdam Foods has identified the specific Polish supplier names to the Irish authorities.

McAdam Foods confirmed that any such products were bought and imported on the basis of their being ordered, documented, labelled and understood to be beef, and nothing else. The company has supplied all such labels and documentation to inspectors of the Department of Agriculture and the FSAI.

We are confident that the documentation and proof that we have provided to the authorities will fully exonerate our company and this is also the case in relation to the issue of equine DNA that was found in a Polish consignment sent in early January to our customer Rangeland Foods.

The matter is now being handled between the Irish Department of Agriculture and relevant Polish authorities and McAdam Foods is co-operating fully.

The company also confirmed that product of Polish origin was stored at Freeza Meats in Newry for McAdam Foods last year “on a goodwill basis”. This product had been supplied to McAdam from Poland by a UK meat trading company.

It was discovered that samples taken from a consignment at Freeza Meats in Newry came back positive for about 80 per cent horse meat.

McAdam Foods relinquished ownership of these goods and the UK meat trader agreed to take ownership and address relevant queries from the officer.

Silvercrest

Yesterday, ABP Food Group said that Silvercrest purchased Polish beef products from McAdam Food Service – circa 170 tonnes out of total beef purchases in 2012 of 18,000 tonnes.  it said it purchased these beef products in good faith, but horse DNA originating in Poland was present in some of these products.

However, this morning McAdam Foods rejected this figure, and said it has checked its invoices to Silvercrest Foods, which shows that it supplied Silvercrest with 110 tonnes of Irish pork, leaving 60 tonnes of imported frozen Polish beef delivered.

If ABP bought 18,000 tonnes of beef in total in 2012 (as stated), the 60 tonnes of beef products supplied by McAdam Foods makes up 0.003 per cent of that volume.
It is our understanding that the policy and practice of the ABP Silvercrest plant is to use supplied products within 3 days.

The last delivery by McAdam Foods to Silvercrest was 13 November 2012.

Last night, the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine, Simon Coveney TD announced his Department has received a test result confirming 75 per cent equine DNA in a raw material ingredient at Rangeland Foods, Co Monaghan.

Production has been suspended at Rangeland Foods pending the outcome of the investigation into this.

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    Mute Were Jammin
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:17 AM

    “Will water bills be delayed?”

    Not as delayed as their payment will be. A judge will have to prize the money from my twitching corpse before I pay twice for my water.

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    Mute Mr Phil Officer
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:24 AM

    The judiciary will be the final weapon of the corrupt state to bring the nation to heel.

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    Mute Search Eagle
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:24 AM

    Maybe you should pay for it once, first.

    We have a massive deficit. We are borrowing to fund the difference. This means that what we all pay in taxes doesn’t cover the cost of our services (including water). This means we’re not paying for it twice. The money that ‘was’ going to water is now going to plug the gap in finances elsewhere. If we get rid of the water charges, then those protesting have to tell us where the money is now going to come from.

    I can understand the frustration at the bungling and inept way Irish Water has been set up, but let’s be honest most people just don’t want to pay ‘another’ tax, even though these are exactly the kind of sustainable, stable taxes the state needs, rather than relying on transient windfall taxes.

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:26 AM

    Cant pay these water charges and will not be paying these outragous taxes on the lords gift that falls from the sky.

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    Mute Em Murphy
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:54 AM

    Search Eagle, you’re right. We do have a huge deficit but you are being disingenuous when you say our taxes do not cover the cost of our services, including water. Our taxes DO cover the ‘cost’ associated with delivery and treatment of our water. However, the taxes collected for this are not spent on this. Instead our taxes are spent paying for something we do not owe and we are NOT responsible for. The EU and ECB’s treatment of us, the people of the Republic of Ireland, has been reprehensible. Our elected government’s continued spineless response to their blackmail is sickening. The debacle that is Irish Water is the final straw. It’s not just Leinster House that needs to hear we will not accept this unjust treatment any longer. Brussels needs to sit up and take notice….enough is enough.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11138980/ECBs-treatment-of-Ireland-and-Italy-is-a-constitutional-scandal-yet-nobody-held-to-account.html

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    Mute richard fennessy
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:01 AM

    S eagle u obviously can’t understand the frustration r u wouldn’t write such f Gael propoganda bull

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    Mute Alan
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:13 AM

    @Search Eagle, while I see where you are coming from I don’t agree. “The money that ‘was’ going to water is now going to plug the gap in finances elsewhere.” – whose fault is that? The Irish peoples? I don’t remember myself running up massive debt and loan that I then passed on to the people? Who is being held responsible for that? I’m all for paying for a good water system, but we have paid out enough already and they still want more from us. What’s next? Where do we draw the line?

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    Mute Kerry Blake
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:15 AM

    The money we now “don’t” have Eagle is going to pay for the bank bailouts. Never pay for the same service twice.

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    Mute Simon Barnes
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:25 AM

    You do know why we have a massive deficit don’t you, you also must be aware that funding water was not an issue before the IMF got involved. You can also see a correlation between the 1.6bn needed to fund the interest on the bailout bankers part of our debt and the now missing 1.6bn needed to fund Irish water.

    They can go and collectively Fcuk themselves.

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    Mute Simon Barnes
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:29 AM

    Eagle. where does this stop in paying down debt that is not ours with our tax money that is supposed to be used to run the country. Next they’ll come up with a plan that roads were not being funded with motor tax, and now we have to bring in a separate road tax to fund the repair of roads. Would that be expectable to you

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    Mute Search Eagle
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:55 AM

    @Em Murphy Our democratically elected government decided to bail out the banks unilaterally. It decided to enact that massive over-reaching bank guarantee. It’s simply amazing how Fianna Fáil have managed to re-write history, to take themselves out of the picture, and the ECB is now getting the blame for insisting we (“we” as in “the country”) keep to an agreement that we ourselves put in place. Whether you or I like it, we (again “the country”) now have those debts, as we have to honour them otherwise we can kiss goodbye to anyone lending to us again.

    @Richard yes I’m spreading propaganda for a party I’ve never voted for.

    @Alan “whose fault is that? The Irish peoples? ” – yes, in a word. At least partially. We voted in governments that destroyed our tax base, pumped up spending and inflated a massive property bubble. We had an opportunity to vote out those governments and we did not take them. Now you might not have voted for those parties, I certainly didn’t vote for Fianna Fáil, but that doesn’t change the facts. You can’t moral outrage a deficit away. You can insist we’ve paid ‘enough’ but the figures don’t lie. “Enough” is the system fully-funded.

    It’s telling that the recession has done little to make us grow up as a nation. Instead of learning from our mistakes, we look to blame others for our mistakes (EU, IMF) and give support to the next band of populists telling us what we want to hear (SF et al.).

    @Kerry – the vast majority of the debt we hold is borrowing to fund public services and welfare during the recession after FF’s economy collapsed. The bank bailout is a significant, but lesser chunk of our debt. That’s not up for debate. That’s just a fact. Something that’s in short supply around here.

    @Simon – the very reason the IMF got involved is *because* we couldn’t fund the place! They didn’t come in of their own accord, we invited them in because we needed the money. You can insist the debt isn’t “ours” until the cows come home, but the reality is our democratically elected government has made sovereign guarantees to pay back the debt. Most of which, as I said above, came from borrowing to fund public services when our stupidly narrow tax base came back to bite us in the behind.

    We can’t change that now.

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    Mute Simon Barnes
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 11:04 AM

    Eagle you might want to do some reading up on the bail out. according to Brian L. he was forced into the bailout, he even lied to his colleagues over it. The reason was not lack of funding but excessive private debts that should have not been tied to the public purse. It was totally unconstitutional for them to do that. It is even recognised now that certain banks should have been allowed to fail and NAMA should never have been set up.
    9bn we are going to need this year just to pay the interest on our debts. that’s 9bn of tax payers money thrown out the window and not used to fund the country.

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    Mute Tim Kearney
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 11:09 AM

    @search Eagle…. Feck off will ya… Your a fecking nuisance…

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    Mute Simon Barnes
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 11:20 AM

    Here’s some light reading for you Eagle. Might help demist your rose tinted glass on how unconstitutional the bank guarantee and bailout was in that closed door overnight sitting that forced and rushed it into legislation.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/ecb-trichet-bailout-letter-to-lenihan-573038-Aug2012/

    And remember we bear the brunt of the debts for Europe. And pay a lot of interest on it too. we have to crawl begging for them to let us pay some of it back early

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    Mute Coddler O Toole
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 11:31 AM

    Search Eagle,
    Modern fiat currency money is not a finite resource. It is created at will on the computer keyboards of the institutions public and private that are authorized to do so. Sovereign currency issuing states do not need to tax in order to spend. The act of government spending creates the money which can then later be removed from the economy via taxation. Neither do those nations need to borrow their own currency from anywhere is order to finance water or any other public services.

    The macro economy of nations and the globe is fundamentally different to the micro economics of business and households (private sector) who are users of the currency but not the issuer. A sovereign currency issuing government can afford to buy whatever resources are available for purchase in its own currency, (including the labour of the unemployed) as they can never run out of keystrokes and so a budget deficit should not be considered a problem once this understood.
    This is why most countries can run a budget deficit most of the time and it makes perfect macro economic sense to do so.

    It’s really only the Eurozone countries that are required to borrow their own currency in the market at an interest rate determined by the market. Fiat currency issuing nations like the U.S and U.K do not need to obtain dollars and sterling from the bond markets to finance a budget deficit or indeed to cover private banking debt in the domestic currency. When they do choose to issue government bonds the primary objective is to implement monetary policy (e.g. drive their chosen base interest rate to target) not as a necessity to raise revenue. In addition, when those countries do ‘borrow’ in the market, they effectively decide what the yield/interest will be unlike the Eurozone nations subject to the tender mercy of the speculators.

    In contrast, the Euro single currency was deliberately designed to allow speculative financial capitalism to profit massively from member state sovereign debt as monetary policy is now in the hands of the ECB who impose destructive neoliberal economics on the citizens under the pretense that there is somehow a shortage of Euros and so member states must reduce their deficits to 3% of GDP. They do this with the assistance of member state puppet governments including our own FG/Labour quislings and FF before them.

    The Austerity program imposed by the Troika and 2 successive governments achieved exactly what it was designed to do. That is to slash the social support structures like Health and Education and drive down the wages, working conditions and living standards of ordinary people to pay for the economic crisis caused by the capitalist elite. Privatization of our national infrastructure like the water network will follow soon as per the old IMF playbook. To justify austerity, they peddle the economic fairy tale that nations need to ‘balance the books’. This is nonsense in a macro economic context. Most countries run a budget deficit most of the time and always have done. Vicious austerity is applied to the people of Ireland, Spain, Portugal and Greece while in contrast the ECB has created 1400 billion euros by pressing keys on its shiny computer in Frankfurt and made it available to the parasite banks whose greed and stupidity triggered the economic crisis in the first place. Austerity is for the little people.

    In fact with the fiat floating currencies we’ve had since the 1970s there is no need whatsoever for a sovereign currency issuing government/central bank like the U.S. or Japan to ‘borrow’ at all in its own currency. They can simply create the currency at will electronically on computer keyboards. This is a major factor in why sovereign currency issuing governments actually control bond interest rates regardless of the state of their economies and with far higher debt to GDP ratios than the Eurozone nations. For example, Japan has a far higher debt to GDP ratio than Ireland and yet its bond yields are much lower.

    The government ‘debt’ market is in reality an extremely generous, risk-free, interest bearing deposit facility for the large financial institutions and ultra wealthy. Continuing this neo liberal agenda, the Eurozone was deliberately designed to allow private banks (markets) to profit to an even greater extent from member state debt. The EU allows the markets to set the borrowing rate for Euro countries on an individual basis while the authority to create their own currency has been taken from the nations and now resides in the ECB. It’s an ingenious Catch 22 and the vast majority of the EU citizenry are the victims.

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    Mute Dave Hammond
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 11:32 AM

    I had a meet

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    Mute Dave Hammond
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 11:35 AM

    I has a meeting outside government buildings today with myself and agreed to defer any payments to Irish water until after the next election.

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    Mute Dave Doyle
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 11:53 AM

    Search Eagle, you can blow that out of you know where orifice. It is as simple as this. We will not pay one more cent for water. We will never allow our water to be privatised. You can talk down to who you like, you can blame who you like. The message to you and those of your ilk is clear. Understand.

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 12:30 PM

    @Simon That’s a very simplistic analysis.

    Even if we accept for a moment that the reason for the bailout was exclusively due to private debt being tied to the public’s purse, who was it that tied that debt to the public purse in the first place? Who was it that did so in 2008, without making any particular attempt to co-ordinate with its European partners? And who was it that implemented the ridiculous fiscal policies and lack of regulation that lead to the banks needing to be bailed out in the first place. We all know the answer.

    The Irish government had no intention of burning any bondholders, otherwise they would’ve done so between 2008-2010. The only bondholders that were burnt were AFTER the IMF/EU got involved with our monetary affairs. It is quite clear that the Irish government only started making noises about burning bondholders (the very few that were left) when they could shift the blame onto the ECB, for insisting that they carry out the very policy they supported (perhaps unfairly). Whatever the flaws in the ECB’s approach to the crisis, and there are numerous legitimate criticisms you can make, this is not one of them. This is a Fianna Fáil re-write of history that doesn’t make any sense.

    Can I repeat before anyone comes back with a predictable retort of me being a EU shill or some other crap: The ECB isn’t blameless in the crisis, the crisis response from the EU was muddled at best, but our government were the architects of it and arguably made the wrong moves to solve it. The crisis is complicated and multi-faceted, and it certainly isn’t wearing ‘rose-tinted glasses’ not to accept the simplistic narrative of “it was Europe’s fault”.

    @Coddler – I don’t have time to reply to that at the moment as it’s a long post, but in essence what you’re bemoaning is a lack of money printing in the EU. I disagree with how you cast it as some big conspiracy to allow speculators to run riot over the euro-zone, but there is a legitimate debate to be had about whether the ECB should’ve engaged in more vigorous QE.

    However, your view seems to be that this could’ve avoided the need for proper fiscal management. That is not one I subscribe to.

    @Tim I’m sorry that you don’t like hearing stuff that doesn’t affirm what you already believe. I didn’t realise this was groupthink.ie

    @Dave who is ‘my ilk’.

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 12:31 PM

    Blame everybody else there why d’ont you S.E , F.F wrecked the country so it,s the people,s fault who voted for these muppets you say. Also d,ont forget shinner bashing it,s all the rage at the moment plus nobody asked the people regarding bank bailout in this land of continuous referendum,s the bank bailout was sold as a liquidity problem.

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 2:14 PM

    Search Eagle?

    Can you define what you mean by “proper fiscal management”? If you mean limiting the budget deficit or “balancing the books” then I’ve already explained why this is a huge mistake.

    Quantitative Easing involves buying bonds from the commercial banks in return for central bank reserves. QE measures are based on the mistaken belief that commercial bank lending is constrained by the amount of reserves that that they hold in the central bank. A commercial bank will lend money to any credit worthy borrower who they believe will pay them back. The bank will then source any shortfall in reserves after the fact in the interbank market or from the central bank itself. Lending is never limited by reserves as the loan itself creates the deposit which in turn generates reserves.
    The reason that the commercial banks are currently not lending much is because they are not convinced there are credit worthy customers on their doorstep and the root cause of that is the lack of aggregate demand in the EU after 6 years of savage austerity. This is why QE has failed to stimulate the real EU economy and more vigorous QE will have exactly the same result.

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    Mute Dave Doyle
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 5:25 PM

    Search Eagle, you have written enough drivel above to prove you really are clueless, i’m not here to educate you, find out what “ILK” is for yourself

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:14 AM

    Delayed they will be scraped if people stick together

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    Mute Search Eagle
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:26 AM

    Possibly. Where is the money going to come from then? Despite people’s protestations that they’ve ‘already paid’, there is now going to be a large gap of several hundred million in the budget.

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:37 AM

    Well maybe they shouldn’t have squandered hundreds of millions setting this garbage up. It wouldn’t be the first time this country has flushed huge amounts of money down the drain either. E-Voting machines anyone? Few snowploughs? Spend money first, ask questions later.

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    Mute Pete Foley
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:39 AM

    How about where it came from up to now ? The 1.5 billion a year that is collect from the 2% on vat 5% on motor tax

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:48 AM

    Does anyone know what’s gonna happen to this money once we are paying for water ???

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    Mute Pete Foley
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:52 AM

    Or have used the €180 million it cost to set up iw to fix the leaks and use the money it’s going to cost every year to run iw on maintaining water. It’s not rocket science.

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:59 AM

    Search eagle they have already wasted that setting it up and still got it wrong

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:01 AM

    @searcheagle.How much do you reckon it would cost to run a proper water system for the entire country? How much are going to give the banks for generations to come? Which there will be many more booms and busts and debt loaded on top of that debt as well.

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:42 AM

    Forget the nay sayers, the vast majority of the citizens of Ireland are vehemently opposed to water privatisation. We live in a republic the last time I looked. If the majority stick together we’ll be fine and this whole neoliberal nightmare to privatise our god given water will be scrapped. We don’t need the agreement of everyone just a majority. This transcends class and social divde. We will not under any circumstances accept privatisation of our water supply.

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    Mute stuohy
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:06 AM

    Labour are trying to spin the blame away from themselves to Irish Water. Are people buying it?

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:10 AM

    Labour will be like the dodo after the next GE.

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:59 AM

    They do indeed Jayo, but Labour voters have an alternative in Sinn Féin.

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:24 AM

    Too put it nicely,
    Irish Water can go and make love to themselves. …

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    Mute winding_down
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 12:26 PM

    Of course they’ll be delayed. Even if every last member of the public cooperated, Irish Water is completely incompetent. I doubt they even know where their local post office is.

    On the basis of the number of Welcome Packs they’ve not yet sent out (only 10 days before the original deadline), I’d say we can expect our January bills sometime around Easter.

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:13 AM

    Labour will be something a scrape off the bottom of my shoe after the next election

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:11 AM

    I suspect that after The Nationwide Marches on November 1st , Irish Water , will be washed down the drain , followed by this inept and awful Government !

    I saw a video this morning of a man being arrested at a No Water demonstration in Dublin yesterday .
    In it a Garda brazenly removed data from the mans phone , having taken the phone from him.
    The Gardai’s function should clearly not be to provide heavy handed illegal back up for this Irish Water Company , where some Gardai are acting themselves , in an illegal manner ?

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    Mute Martin Hayes
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:41 AM

    I’ve said it before and I’m saying it again. The Gardai are no longer a “peoples’ police force”, years of political manipulation of it’s upper echelons have reduced them to nothing short of a government militia.

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 6:07 PM

    Gerald please do not insult excrement as unlike labour gael it has some use’s, for example fertiliser.

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    Mute eire
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:15 AM

    Couldn’t give two shiny s*****, there not getting a cent off me!

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    Mute Jason
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:23 AM

    they’re.

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:39 AM

    You’re a w*****!

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:31 AM

    There, their they’re Jason. Did you get a bad start to the day.

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:32 AM

    its Simples , we are not paying for it , we are not registering for it and Denis O Brien can now go and suck a fat one for all I care . I AM NOT YOUR PIGGY BANK

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:39 AM

    DoB will be left seriously out of pocket if IW buckles because of his speculative investment in water meters.

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:18 AM

    Not enough to blame Labour, FG should be sunk without trace too.

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:18 AM

    The f••••• state if them all. They’re an embarrassment to the Irus people. Alan Kelly was cringeworthy last night on the state broadcaster, John Tierney has the head of a sleeveen and is nowhere to be seen, bully biy Hogan slipped if to the safety of Europe. Meanwhile you can smell the fear and the desperation, throwing lots if new measure to get us to sign up if WE were the dumb ones. Irish people must be steadfast and resolute, stick together and demand the immediate disbandment if the corrupt entity that is IW. Every day that passes they waste more if our money trying to get us to buy back what is already ours. Close the door when you leave IW !

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:25 AM

    True martin we will not forget FG part in this but Labour said they will not enter government if water charges are on the table.

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:47 AM

    Fooking sure they’ll be delayed….12 th of never

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    Mute Martin Hayes
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:11 AM

    Indeed but it was not the Labour leader who stood up in the Dail and said it was an abhorrence that people should have to pay tax on the family home, it was not a Labour TD who said “not another cent” for the banks or bondholders. I’m not defending Labour, far from it, but FG are Ireland’s Tory party, all of this and probably more would have come to pass if they had achieved an overall majority.

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    Mute thetruth
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:18 AM

    The caption on Tierneys photo is wrong. It shoild read “is Tierney endas newest scapegoat”

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:33 AM

    The existence of IW and the management of IW are two separate issues.

    Tierney is responsible for the latter and has not done a good job so far considering the massive resources at his disposal.

    He didn’t create IW, but he is being richly rewarded for the clusterfluich that it has been to-date.

    What qualified him for the job needs to be investigated.

    Why we didn’t hire some experienced foreigner who has managed a water utility in any one of all the other OECD countries that charge for water needs to be explained.

    Instead we have the guy with an infamous past (Incinerator, Bottleworks etc) who has demonstrated extraordinary abilities to spend enormous amounts of money on consultants.

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    Mute Dave Doyle
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:24 AM

    We hear this morning that Kenny and the government have known since 2012 exactly what the bonus system in IW would be. More lies come out on a daily basis. It is all down to the fact that they thought that we would roll over once more and take it up the a** again. They couldn’t wait to set up another cosy quango for their buddies. They thought we would never cop on. They can tweek as much as they like with IW, nothing will change, we will not pay them one more cent. The government and IW are finished, the sooner they realise that the better. They should not be allowed swan off into the sunset with their huge multiple pensions either. Those responsible for making 1% of Eurpoe’s population pay 42% of a debt they are not responsible for, should face criminal charges in a court of law.

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    Mute Conn Rogers
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 11:05 AM

    Very well said, Dave. Spot on.

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    Mute Setrakian
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:50 AM

    The question should be – Will water double tax bills be paid?
    The answer is a resounding no.

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    Mute Daire
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:28 AM

    A million metres ! Coincidentally that’s almost all the way to Berlin.

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    Mute William Boyd
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:55 AM

    and at €500 for each one installed Daire.

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    Mute Coco McDee
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 9:56 AM

    Water tax would not go the state but to IMF to pay for private banking mistakes, everybody knows it search eagle so go back to work in FG headquarters or wherever it is, or maybe you’re an employee if the big PR company that our taxes are paying for so they can tell us what they want us to think. Take a hike

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    Mute Simon Barnes
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:34 AM

    There was already talk that the monies (if any ) collected should be put into the social housing crisis.

    so LPT is to fund IW
    IW is to fund social housing.
    All a disguise as we know the money will be put in the one big pot that the bailout has priority over

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    Mute glenoir
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:43 AM

    Willie o dea is not giving his pps no and is deducting his free allowance from his bill when it comes

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    Mute Eric Davies
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 11:14 AM

    delayed or on time ,it makes no difference ,i wont be paying !

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    Mute Eoin Padraig Walsh
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 11:09 AM

    Wow, He is one Smug looking Gobs***te

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    Mute Charlie Mountney
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:46 AM

    So that’s what he looks like. Grey Lego hair, a tan and a smirk.
    No surprise there.

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    Mute executioner
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 11:50 AM

    The whole thing stinks,again all down to the public service gobs##tes who have destroyed this country and wasted billions in tax payers money ,The Government who failed to see the collapse of the banks particularly Anglo who cost the state 60 billion yet biffo was the chief executive s best golfing buddy,Tierney who was the head of the poolbeg incinerator wasted 100million yet not a brick layed and then gets to run Irish water which he also has made a balls of,Banana Republic carry on .

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    Mute galway2007
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 11:59 AM

    mine will be delayed as it will never arrive

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    Oct 22nd 2014, 1:11 PM
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:23 AM

    By the way don’t give thumbs down to comments you don’t like, it just bums the comments to the too and then more people get to read their propaganda, if you like it red thumb it if you don’t ignore it

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    Mute Simon Barnes
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 10:35 AM

    telling me how I should use my thumbs. not going to go down well. This comment deserves to be at the bottom of the pile

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    Mute Jenny Kennelly
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    Oct 22nd 2014, 8:45 PM

    How are the massive salaries and up to 19% awards,in Irish Water, going to help close the deficate hole???

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