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Explainer: What happened last night? Why was IBRC liquidated? What happens now?

Why on earth were the Dáil and Seanad sitting until the small hours of this morning? This might help…

Update at 3.30pm: The Taoiseach has told the Dáil that the promissory note payments are gone, they have been replaced with long-term government bonds.

Kenny told the Dáil: “The first principal payment on these bonds will be made in 25 years time, 2038, with the final payment being made in 2053. The average maturity of these bonds will be over 34 years rather than the 7 – 8 years on a promissory note.” The average interest rate on these bonds will be 3 per cent, compared to 8 per cent on the promissory notes. Read more

Update at 1.25pm: It is now widely reported that the Irish government and the European Central Bank has reached an agreement on replacing the promissory note arrangement.

AT 7.11AM THIS morning the office of President Michael D Higgins confirmed that he had signed the Irish Bank Resolution Corporation Bill 2013 into law following an all-night session of the Dáil and Seanad.

As the government seeks a deal to reduce the burden of the €30.06 billion promissory note payments due in respect of the former Anglo Irish Bank, this legislation gives effect to the liquidating of Irish Bank Resolution Corporation – the entity made up of the former Anglo Irish Bank and Irish Nationwide Building Society.

But why was this done? Why did it have to be done so quickly and what impact does it have on Ireland’s bid to secure a deal on reducing the burden of the promissory note payments?

Let’s break it down…

First off, why was IBRC liquidated?

When the government took over Anglo and Irish Nationwide and rolled them into one to create IBRC it always intended to wind down this entity once it dealt with its substantial loan book, worked out its asset portfolio, and generally dealt with the massive mess left behind that had forced the State guarantee of the banks in the first place.

IBRC intended to achieve “full resolution” by 2020 but now the bank has been liquidated as part of a move by the government to reduce the immediate burden of the promissory note payments. This explainer has more detail but briefly promissory notes are IOUs amounting to €31 billion given to IBRC around 2010 to allow it to borrow funds from the Central Bank of Ireland.

Ireland committed to paying these IOUs back over more than a decade with €3.06 billion due every March for the next ten years but because  the European Central Bank and its governing treaty forbids monetary financing – the printing of money – this money would have to be destroyed. This was anathema to, well, everyone really and the government has been seeking a deal that involves not making these payments but at the same time not defaulting on the IOUs.

Labour Party chairman Colm Keaveney leaving the Dáil early this morning. Pic: Laura Hutton/Photocall Ireland

What does the liquidation process entail?

Liquidation is a formal means by which a company is wound up and the proceeds from the sell off of its assets are distributed among creditors, these are people who are owed money.

In the case of IBRC, a special liquidator from KPMG has been appointed by the Minister for Finance to the IBRC and all of its assets including its loan book of about €16 billion will be transferred to the Nastional Management Agency (NAMA) – the State’s bad bank set up after the financial crisis – which will manage the loans until around 2020.

It is also intended that NAMA will issue bonds which have the advantage of being covered by the government guarantee and the cost of these bonds is lower with NAMA paying just 0.75 per cent interest on these bonds.  The intention, subject to ECB approval, is that the promissory note arrangement will be replaced with NAMA bonds and will thus remove the annual repayments due in respect of the promissory notes and lengthen repayment schedule over a longer period.

But it also means that the State has taken on the liabilities of the IBRC and they are now official sovereign debt. This means the debt is owed by the State to the Central Bank and therefore the ECB and cannot be written down.

Why did all this have to happen in the middle of the night?

Yesterday evening at around 4.30pm Reuters and Bloomberg news agencies reported that there was a plan to liquidate IBRC under a wide proposal to get a deal on the promissory notes. This, as one source put it, led to “total chaos” in government buildings, the Department of Finance and Leinster House as once it was revealed that there were moves to liquidate the bank it had to be done.

Communications Minister Pat Rabbitte leaving Leinster House. Pic: Laura Hutton/Photocall Ireland

As Minister for Finance Michael Noonan explained last night “there was an immediate risk to the bank” with fears that its creditors would go to the High Court seeking injunctions perhaps more important the markets reacting negatively to news that a State-owned bank was being liquidated. As Noonan later explained you generally don’t say you are going to liquidate a company and wait a few weeks to liquidate it. In an ideal world the government would have announced the liquidation and an ECB deal together but the leaks prevented this from happening.

The government claims that a plan – a secret plan – to liquidate IBRC has been in planning for months which was why legislation was produced so quickly yesterday. Yet still TDs only got sight of it minutes before a debate on it was due to begin at 10.30pm (The Taoiseach eventually allowed the debate to be suspended until 12am). There was much unhappiness about all of this among opposition TDs and senators.

What does the legislation say and what does it mean?

The legislation is 58 pages long with 25 sections. Some of its key points include:

  1. A preamble which says “the winding up of IBRC is necessary to resolve the debt of IBRC to the Central Bank of Ireland”.
  2. It also points out that “in the achievement of the winding up of IBRC, the common good may require permanent or temporary interference with the rights, including property rights, of persons” – the constitutionality of this has been questioned by some.
  3. It halts all legal cases being taken against the IBRC however it – or NAMA as it will now be – can continue to pursue legal cases.
  4. It terminates the employment of every IBRC employee, there are around 800 to 850.
  5. The liquidator can only act on the instruction of the Minister.
  6. It gives power to the Minister for Finance to creates securities or bonds that can be sold to other financial institutions, kind of like a bank.

So with that, some 800-850 employees at IBRC are technically out of the job this morning but many of them are expected to transfer to NAMA. The future of high-profile figures like chief executive Mike Aynsley is unclear.

I heard talk that this bill could be unconstitutional?

Generally there are a lot of questions being raised about the amount of power the bill is handing to Michael Noonan though his junior Brian Hayes said this morning that the government, on the advice of the Attorney General, is confident that the legislation is constitutional.

The section about the “common good” and “temporary interference” with property rights of person could fall foul of the constitution but this is in the preamble and not the legislation itself so will need some legal minds to determine that.

Furthermore, Independent TD Stephen Donnelly told Vincent Browne on TV3 last night that he feared portions of the bill were not constitutional. Only in the days and weeks ahead will it be established whether the legislation is legally sound or not.

Stephen Donnelly speaking to Vincent Browne outside Leinster House last night. Pic: Laura Hutton/Photocall Ireland

So now the legislation is passed do we have a deal with the ECB?

No, the government’s hope is that the promissory note arrangement can be swapped for the bonds issued through NAMA. This would have the effect of spreading repayment (we would still be repaying the €30.06 billion) over a longer period and proving less burdensome, removing the onerous loss of €3.06 billion ever year to the thin air (As we explained before, the promissory note money is handed to the Central Bank and electronically deleted).

But all of this needs the approval of the governing council of the ECB (made up of eurozone members’ central bank governors) which is meeting today in Frankfurt and Bloomberg is reporting that some members want to discuss the proposal with their own central banks first and this could prolong the time it takes for a decision to be made.

So this is not rubber-stamped?

No. Furthermore there isn’t exactly encouraging noises coming from economists like Karl Whelan, economics professor at UCD, who told RTÉ’s Morning Ireland that what has happened now is that the money owed to the IBRC, which was owed to the Central Bank, has now been “written-off unilaterally by the Dáil”.

He said the position created now is that NAMA is in debt the ECB. He hypothesised that there could be a decision by the ECB to say that its not happy with the proposal and it is illegal as it amounts to monetary financing (which is printing money) and is illegal under EU treaties.

How confident is Michael Noonan? Well he said he simply doesn’t know if the ECB will agree to it: “I don’t know whether they’ll sign off on it,” he told the Seanad last night. His junior minister Brian Hayes told Morning Ireland he was “confident and optimistic”of a deal.

But at the moment, there is no deal.

But if the ECB does agree, is it a good deal?

That’s really a matter of opinion. If you are of the mind that the promissory notes were an abomination and should under no circumstances be repaid or that at the very least less money should be repaid than €30.06 billion is not a good deal because we’re still repaying all the money.

Protesters outside Leinster House last night. Pic: Laura Hutton/Photocall Ireland

It also has the effect of turning the promissory notes into full-blown sovereign debt, money owed to the ECB which can never be written down. Effectively the deal rules out any prospect that might cut the €30.06 billion principal by a few billion euro.

The only benefit to all this is that it means repaying it over a longer period and the hope is that inflation and the economic recovery will contribute to lessening the overall impact. Paying out €3.1 billion now is economically harsher than it would be in 10 or 15 years time. Though of course it’s still a lot of money.

Michael Noonan says that an agreement to the proposal from the ECB would mean a “very good deal for the Irish taxpayer” but then he would say that. Economist Karl Whelan says that “extending it [the repayments] off into the future is something that can be of benefit” pointing out that Britain is still repaying World War I debts but this goes unnoticed in the grand scheme of things.

What effect does it have on the wider economy, the debt, the deficit, future budgets?

It is impossible to say for definite what impact this deal will have on any of that. But the financial blogger Namawinelake has crunched a few numbers saying that if we replace the promissory note with a 10-year bond that has a 4 per cent interest rate we will pay interest of €400 million compared with the €1.8 billion interest this year due on the interest (which is about €10 billion) applied to the €31 billion promissory note.

He writes: “We will make similar savings in 2014 and 2015, though the savings reduce after that. This consequently means we can potentially cut the adjustment this year by €1.4bn and the Budget in December would be €1.7bn of adjustments rather than €3.1bn.”

What about IBRC’s case against the Quinn family?

As you will know from this explainer the bank is chasing Seán Quinn and his family for some €2.3 billion it claims it is owed as a result of loans to the bankrupt businessman and his family during the boom. This involves a series of complex court actions in various jurisdictions including here in Ireland and eastern Europe.

Under the new law, the cases will transfer to NAMA which will continue to pursue the Quinns through the courts. However the Quinn family, which disputes the amount it owes, could potentially raise issues with this before the courts and delay actions further. Some aspects of the case against the Quinns in Ireland are already delayed by the trial of former Anglo executives.

Labour TDs depart the Dáil after a late-night vote. Pic: Laura Hutton/Photocall Ireland

Oh yeah, what about the cases against Seán FitzPatrick and other Anglo executives?

These are being taken by the Director of Public Prosecutions through the criminal court so are unaffected.

What about the case brought by David Hall?

As we detail here, that case goes ahead with Hall in the Supreme Court this morning contesting the legality of the promissory notes arrangement as there was no Dáil vote when the notes were issued. This case has just been adjourned until next week when the chief justice will consider it. It’s reported that a number of TDs including Luke Ming Flanagan are trying to attach themselves to the case

Will the Dáil get to vote on any agreement with the ECB?

Yes, according to Brian Hayes who said that any deal with the ECB will be put to the Oireachtas.

So what happens now?

We wait for the decision of the ECB governing council and the feeling is that that decision will be a ‘wait-and-see’ one whereby it agrees to examine the proposal and then spends a few days or weeks, probably weeks, going over it.

The upshot is that we are unlikely to get anything definitive today on this. So after a night of fast-paced drama in Leinster House, we are now facing a wait to discover just what this truly means for you and I, the Irish taxpayers.

Read: Central Bank reassures IBRC customers they will be repaid

Read: Noonan: IBRC bill brought through due to “immediate risk” to bank

Read: President signs legislation to liquidate IBRC into law

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    Mar 27th 2014, 2:58 PM

    Ukrainian nightmare candidate. Another oligarch. Not what the people of Ukraine want or deserve.
    She got the rough end of the stick by the deposed gangster, but that doesn’t mean she can run a country. Especially one that is on the edge now.

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    Mar 27th 2014, 4:03 PM

    Oligarch yes! But I would, would you?

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    Mar 27th 2014, 11:12 PM

    Recently been quoted as saying “going to kill all Russians”.

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    Mar 27th 2014, 2:38 PM

    If her legacy as prime minister is anything to go by (ie. IMF bail-out due to governmental incompetence and corruption) she would make a dreadful president.

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    Mar 27th 2014, 3:02 PM

    Heard a recording of a phone conversation she had recently where she said she would go nuclear on 8 million ethnic Russians living in the east and annihilate them. Lovely woman..

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    Mar 27th 2014, 3:07 PM

    Yeah but the Americans and EU love her, not that there’s anything new about the USA supporting tyrants

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    Mar 27th 2014, 5:46 PM

    The EU and the USA don’t love her as they know she’s divisive and inflammatory.

    Apologies for introducing a fact into a discussion about Ukraine!

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    Mar 27th 2014, 6:35 PM

    I get the point but how could she go nuclear. Ukraine gave up the bomb

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    Mar 27th 2014, 7:51 PM

    They gave up their weapons but they still have the capacity to make them again, simple.

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    Mar 27th 2014, 3:00 PM

    What was the point of the protests that toppled Yanukovych if he’s just going to be replaced by yet another corrupt oligarch?

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    Mar 27th 2014, 5:34 PM

    She has to be elected first.

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    Mar 27th 2014, 6:34 PM

    Interesting that you think she would be elected. I personally don’t think so. Someone pro European yes but it won’t be her

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    Mar 27th 2014, 2:40 PM

    She does look good, but she is one evil heartless cow.
    She is on record saying that if she ever became president of Ukraine, she would wipe out all Russian-Ukraians.
    She wants to ban the Russian language and i am not sure what her plans are for ‘the wipeout’ entail.

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    Mar 27th 2014, 2:41 PM

    Really, she is a lovely lady ….

    Article headline: In latest wiretapping leak, Yulia Tymoshenko appears to say ‘nuclear weapons’ should be used to kill Russians

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/03/25/in-latest-wiretapping-leak-yulia-tymoshenko-appears-to-say-nuclear-weapons-should-be-used-to-kill-russians/

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    Mar 27th 2014, 2:49 PM

    Cal she’s only with you for the money!

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    Mar 27th 2014, 3:09 PM

    Cal Mooney

    Tymoshenko is one of the group of NATO/EU/US supporters who said they would gladly break ever treaty with Russia. And I thought the so-called democracy parties wanted law and treaties respected. It seems only some laws and treaties, namely those that bring the IMF/EU and US into her country. She is a Quisling and we have our share in this country.

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    Mar 27th 2014, 3:17 PM

    CMac, if the Russians won’t respect their treaties with the Ukraine then why should they bother honouring anything the Russians signed?

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    Mar 27th 2014, 3:39 PM

    Jason Culligan

    Russia reacted to the crisis created by Kiev. Only then did it react. The US is active in destabilizing the democratically elected leader, as it has in so many places around the world.

    The US regime change is all about subverting law and order so their candidates can be imposed with the covert aid and assistance of the US and its allies like Europe who give a veneer of respectability to the proceedings.

    I don’t see Russia subverting regimes like the US and Europe. Russia since 1001 has done what the West demanded and it has got it nowhere. Putin as a man and Russian rights should not be confused.

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    Mar 27th 2014, 3:49 PM

    For “1001″ read “1991″.

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    Mar 27th 2014, 4:15 PM

    “Russia reacted to the crisis created by Kiev. Only then did it react.”

    And who gave them that right? The Ukraine is a sovereign state, Russia has no place to get involved in internal political disputes.

    “The US is active in destabilizing the democratically elected leader, as it has in so many places around the world.”

    Proof?

    “Russia since 1001 has done what the West demanded and it has got it nowhere.”

    So i’m guessing how Russia has behaved towards Moldova, Georgia and Chechnya and now the Ukraine has just not happened at all in your eyes?

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    Mar 27th 2014, 4:50 PM

    Jason,
    when upi have Coup leaders talking about exterminating Ukranian Russians, i don’t think the Russians had any choice but to go in and deal with the crises … God knows the US/EU couldn’t give a damn about the citiznes of Ukraine, they just want to pillage the country’s resources

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    Mar 27th 2014, 5:10 PM

    Russia has done what it wanted in this region since the days of Catherine the Great

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    Mar 27th 2014, 6:20 PM

    The Americans have financed “color revolutions” in Georgia and Ukraine and hope to do so in the Russian Federation itself. The Americans support the terrorists in Chechnya. The Americans trained and equipped the Georgian military and gave it the green light to attack Russian peacekeepers in South Ossetia. The Americans have financed the overthrow of the elected government in Ukraine and blame Russia for the anxiety this caused among Crimeans who on their own volition fled Ukraine and returned to Russia from whence they came. Even Gorbachev said that Khrushchev should never have put Crimea into Ukraine. Solzhenitsyn said that Lenin should not have put Russian provinces into eastern and southern Ukraine.

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    Mar 27th 2014, 6:23 PM

    American media elites awash in an orgy of feel-good condemnation in particular love to mock Russian media, especially the government-funded English-language outlet RT, as being a source of shameless pro-Putin propaganda, where free expression is strictly barred (in contrast to the Free American Media). That that network has a strong pro-Russian bias is unquestionably true. But one of its leading hosts, Abby Martin, remarkably demonstrated last night what “journalistic independence” means by ending her Breaking the Set program with a clear and unapologetic denunciation of the Russian action in Ukraine.

    For all the self-celebrating American journalists and political commentators: was there even a single US television host who said anything comparable to this in the lead-up to, or the early stages of, the US invasion of Iraq?

    Source: http://zcomm.org/znetarticle/rt-host-abby-martin-condemns-russian-incursion-into-crimea-on-rt/

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    Mar 27th 2014, 8:07 PM

    Link to info
    http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles5/DVNS_Iraq-WMD-Lies.htm
    List of major print media outlets during the timeframe requested

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    Mar 27th 2014, 8:19 PM

    Transcript of Newsnight interview Jeremy Paxman interviews Blair . Not an opinion piece a la RT , but a politician being grilled on the legitimacy of the Iraq war.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/2732979.stmI admire Abbey Martin would that interview Putin in the same manner .
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/2732979.stm

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    Mar 27th 2014, 8:40 PM

    Meanwhile
    On the eve of the Olympics, Mr Kiselev’s masters launched a campaign against Dozhd, a private cable and internet TV channel. The brainchild of Natalia Sindeeva, a 42-year-old media entrepreneur, it is financed by her husband, Alexander Vinokurov. “I wanted to create a channel for people like us,” says Ms Sindeeva. Its young journalists rejected everything Mr Kiselev stands for. It came on air in 2010, during the presidency of Dmitry Medvedev (now prime minister), who endorsed it by his own appearances. Marginal in size, it captured the spirit of the young, creative Moscow types who protested against the Kremlin in December 2011. But its reach grew fast to 18m homes, including many outside Moscow.
    Recently Kremlin propagandists have unleashed a hate-campaign against Dozhd. Cable-TV operators have been instructed to drop it from their packages, depriving the channel of advertising revenues. The trigger for the crackdown was probably Dozhd’s reports of a luxury country estate belonging to Vyacheslav Volodin, deputy head of the Kremlin administration, as well as of protests in Ukraine. But, as Ms Sindeeva says, what irritated the Kremlin most was Dozhd’s independence.

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    Mar 27th 2014, 8:48 PM

    To conclude above
    Although the state formally controls only two main broadcasters, many private ones come directly or indirectly under a media empire of Yury Kovalchuk, a friend of Mr Putin. Besides National Media Group, which has stakes in three TV channels, including 25% of Channel One, Mr Kovalchuk also has a large indirect stake in Gazprom Media, Russia’s largest media group, which owns five television channels, several radio stations and a publishing company. Gazprom Media’s structure is complex: it is 100%-owned by Gazprom bank, almost half of which belongs to Gazprom’s pension fund. Most of this is managed by a firm linked to Mr Kovalchuk.

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    Mar 27th 2014, 10:06 PM

    RT should fire Abbey Martin. Her show is cheesy and she is a liberal liability. She does not fit in with the other high standard shows like crosstalk and worlds apart.

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    Mar 29th 2014, 1:33 AM

    @ Cmac well said !

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    Mar 27th 2014, 3:02 PM

    Western puppet

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    Mar 27th 2014, 2:31 PM

    She doesn’t look 53.she’d have my vote

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    Mar 27th 2014, 2:40 PM

    So you wouldn’t vote for Lucinda Creighton then!

    She’s 34 going on 57.

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    Mar 27th 2014, 2:45 PM

    This woman is corrupt and part of the problem in Ukraine not part of the solution

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    Mar 27th 2014, 2:52 PM

    If Lucinda looked like that yeah id vote for her

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    Mar 27th 2014, 2:52 PM

    I’d give her one..
    On the the voting card

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    Mar 27th 2014, 4:09 PM

    will she even get the chance before russian invade on way to moldovia. Big statement from russians coming they see signs in belarus so they will try to crush it all very soon. Is europe and states willing to go to war if they attack them?? no but if they move to romanias doorstep we will see sparks fly

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    Mar 27th 2014, 4:51 PM

    What a load of crap … Russia has zero intentions of touching Belarus.

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    Mar 27th 2014, 5:15 PM

    Tom you sound like Jim Corr!

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    Mar 27th 2014, 6:32 PM

    I agree tom. Belarus is in the sphere of influence with a dictator propped up by Russia. They risk losing Belarus to Europe if they don’t attack Ukraine.

    Russia will invade eastern Ukraine they will land in Moldova. Unless strong messages are sent that way. Hurt their economy the only thing keeping Vlad in power.

    Also of Ukraine requests military hardware then it should and will be supplied. Russians still have nightmares about Afghanistan. Make sure they get reminded. They don’t have the ability to fight insurgents

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    Mar 27th 2014, 6:54 PM

    eye_c_u …

    You are advocating terrorism … i will remind you of that on other threads.

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    Mar 27th 2014, 10:56 PM

    Cal. Would you have called the resistance groups across Nazi occupied Europe and the former Soviet Union and those that were under Japanese control Terrorists?

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    Mar 27th 2014, 10:59 PM

    Btw Cal when you said “Russia has zero intentions of touching Belarus” I noticed you never mentioned Moldova. Was that just a slip on your part?

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    Mar 28th 2014, 12:25 AM

    So you are saying a Russian invasion would be a good thing?

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    Mar 27th 2014, 2:31 PM

    Nice from afar….

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    Mar 27th 2014, 3:20 PM

    She has a head like a bag of hammers

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    Mar 27th 2014, 2:55 PM

    As expected. Not good for Ukraine

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    Mar 27th 2014, 3:24 PM

    “Washington’s intervention in Ukraine has unleashed dark forces. Yulia Tymoshenko, the criminal Ukrainian oligarch, who braids her hair or hair piece over her head like a crown, was released from prison by Washington’s stooges and has not stopped putting her foot, or both feet, in her mouth.

    Her latest in her intercepted and leaked telephone conversation is her declaration that “it’s about time we grab our guns and go kill those damn Russians together with their leader.” She declared that not even scorched earth should be left where Russia stands. ”

    Source: http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/26/how-much-war-does-washington-want/

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    Mar 27th 2014, 3:25 PM

    “Tymoshenko was sentenced to prison by Ukrainians, not by Russians.

    Contrast her extreme language and Russophobia with the calm measured tones of Putin, who reaffirms Russia’s interest to continue good relations with Ukraine.”

    Source: http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/26/how-much-war-does-washington-want/

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    Mar 27th 2014, 4:18 PM

    “calm measured tones of Putin, who reaffirms Russia’s interest to continue good relations with Ukraine.”

    You forgot to add the part about invading a sovereign nation and annexing part of it while making it illegal for anyone in Russia to criticise said annexation.

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    Mute Sean Hyland
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    Mar 27th 2014, 3:25 PM

    The Finna Gael of Ukraine takes over from Fianna Fail. A lesson from the film “a fist full of dynamite” about poor people dying for revolutions: http://youtu.be/9ebftIo_qu4

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    Mar 27th 2014, 4:16 PM

    If she was voted in she would have the Ukraine engulfed in war.

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    Mar 27th 2014, 5:06 PM

    What Ukraine needs is NEW leadership, not what has failed before

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    Mar 27th 2014, 6:58 PM

    cmac59go out once in a while and get a life you spend your life waffling on the journal.go for a pint and mix with people.

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    Mute Peter Gaffey
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    Mar 27th 2014, 9:25 PM

    She’s gonna win it, 13 out of every 10 ukranians will vote for her..

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    Mar 28th 2014, 8:21 AM

    Ha! Not if the Eurasian Komitee for demokratik reform have anything to do with it :-)

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    Mar 27th 2014, 6:40 PM

    Not sure there will be an election for her to win given the intelligence coming out of this region over the last 24 hours. An invasion by Russia seems imminent with estimated troops between 35-80 thousand.

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    Mar 27th 2014, 7:57 PM

    Can ye link to that please?

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    Mar 27th 2014, 8:51 PM

    As the piece above stated she only commands 8.3% of the vote. Where as Petro Poroshenko is so far the clear favorite with nearly 25%. So I wouldn’t be getting to over excited about her winning anything.

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