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New bill introduces definition of a grandparent

Fine Gael TD said it is an unusual piece of legislation as our laws do not generally address such personal issues as familial bonds.

A NEW BILL, legislating for the rights of grandparents to apply for access to children will introduce a definition of the term in child guardianship law.

Last week the Rights of Grandparents Bill 2013 was moved in the Dáil to its first stage by Fine Gael TD Derek Keating. The bill will change the current obligation on grandparents to have to apply to court for leave before applying for access to their grandchildren in circumstances where access is denied.

The bill is an unusual piece of legislation as Keating said our laws do not generally address such personal issues as familial bonds. He said the bill moves towards ensuring that grandparents have access to their grandchildren, where appropriate, and “facilitates the continued development of a relationship or a bond between the two, which should be encouraged whenever possible”.

To achieve the right, the bill seeks to amend the Guardianship of Infants Act 1964 by inserting a definitions for grandparents, as terms for “mother”, “father” and “parent” are already included. The definition reads:

A grandparent in relation to a child means a grandparent whether of whole/half blood or by affinity and includes the spouse of such person, a parent of a child’s adopted parent and an adoptive parent of a child’s parent.

Under the proposed legislation, the court will have regard to all circumstances including the particular applicant’s connection with a child, the risk of the applicant disrupting the child’s life to that extent that they would be harmed by it, the wishes of the parents and fundamentally the wishes of the child.

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    Mute Ray McGrath
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    Jul 12th 2013, 2:45 AM

    Lucinda might be a regressive god-botherer – and good riddance to her – but if Paschal Dohohue’s performances on Vincent Browne’s show are anything to go by, he’s a proper idiot.

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    Mute Terence MacSwiney Field
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    Jul 12th 2013, 2:35 AM

    “I have tonight accepted with regret the resignation of Deputy Lucinda Creighton ….” He asked for her resignation, so where is the regret? Kenny should do the honourable thing and hand his resignation in to the President.

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    Jul 12th 2013, 2:37 AM

    Genuine question. Who would you like to replace him? Martin? Adams?

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    Jul 12th 2013, 4:38 AM

    Just because you don’t agree will the legislation that passed through the Dail tonight does not mean Enda Kenny is not an honorable man without morals. Hypothetically speaking I wonder what your response would be if say Enda Kenny had brought legislation to stop women from travelling to the UK for an abortion. I’d be willing to bet that you and you pro-life cohorts would be singing the man’s praises if he did.

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    Jul 12th 2013, 4:50 AM

    Regardless of the legislation passed through the Dail tonight (a watered down woman abusing piece of junk) Kenny is a twit.

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    Jul 12th 2013, 5:31 AM

    Killian,
    There’s a spare Bruton.

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    Jul 12th 2013, 9:33 AM

    Terence, it’s called manners.

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    Mute Killian Lynch
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    Jul 12th 2013, 9:42 AM

    The Jobs Minister? Or is that autocorrect and you meant the Social Protection Minister?

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    Jul 12th 2013, 9:58 AM

    The one that can replace Enda quickest… Et Tu Bruton. That Bruton.
    The one with a brain.

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    Jul 12th 2013, 10:18 AM

    George, in any sphere of life there are manners and conventions that must be conformed to. This is such a sphere. Another example is in law where a judge is addressed as ‘Your Honour’ and lawyers speak of learned colleagues. I was merely trying to explain why I said ‘manners’, not having a chip.

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    Jul 12th 2013, 10:29 AM

    Your Honour doesn’t cut it here. “Judge” does.

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    Jul 12th 2013, 10:49 AM

    Thanks, Paul. Haven’t been to court. Must have been watching too many movies :-)

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    Jul 12th 2013, 2:16 PM

    Smiley,
    Your manners put mine to shame. I applaud your good nature.

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    Mute Tom Neville
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    Jul 12th 2013, 7:05 PM

    And yet he’s Taoiseach and you’re not.

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    Jul 13th 2013, 6:03 AM

    This comment thread concerns a call for him to resign. Yes, he is Taoiseach. In time he won’t be. Some here think sooner would be better than later.

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    Jul 12th 2013, 2:35 AM

    Another ‘yes’ man….

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    Jul 12th 2013, 6:51 AM

    He’s a lovely man. He’s replacing a nice, but at the same time, miserable woman.

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    Jul 12th 2013, 2:28 AM

    What was that about bad decisions being made at this time of night???

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    Jul 12th 2013, 2:41 AM

    She stood by her views. The Only Woman who did x

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    Jul 12th 2013, 9:05 AM

    What about the many women who agreed with the legislation and voted accordingly?

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    Jul 12th 2013, 2:25 AM

    Best of luck to him. Shane Ross tweeted earlier that he works hard, does his homework. Let’s hope he works to get us out of the bailout and to restore our sovereignty.

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    Jul 12th 2013, 12:18 PM

    “Congratulations Paschal”
    You’ve hit the pension jackpot!!

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    Jul 12th 2013, 2:26 AM

    And you thought Lucinda was thick!

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    Jul 12th 2013, 11:09 AM

    What is that based on Kevin?

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    Jul 12th 2013, 11:25 AM

    Personal interaction with him going back as far as 1993/94.

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    Jul 12th 2013, 4:41 AM

    Fair to say the FG talent gene is fairly shallow.

    Should have tom Barry into battle with Merkels rear end

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    Jul 12th 2013, 8:15 AM

    :-)

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    Jul 12th 2013, 5:41 AM

    Oh my god. This tool. AND the hits keep coming………

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    Jul 12th 2013, 4:48 AM

    Plenty of ambitious climbers in the FG lobster pot.

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    Jul 12th 2013, 9:30 AM

    I like lobster; they can only think in two dimensions – a bit like Enda Kenny.

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    Jul 12th 2013, 8:38 AM

    He is a bloody free loading waster. Our local TD who showed up at every community event and meeting pushing himself as some sort of hero for Dublin central going to solve all the problems. Haven’t seen him or the pr1ck who follows him everywhere since… Useless councillor useless senator sh1te TD and will help bring down the Govt as a pr1ck of a minister…

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    Jul 12th 2013, 9:19 AM

    Dubdon
    I’d wish you were a little bit more open about your views!

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    Jul 12th 2013, 7:56 PM

    I presume that he got elected without your vote! Could it be you wouldn’t vote FG anyway?

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    Jul 12th 2013, 2:45 AM

    Congratulations to Paschal. Very well suited to the position. No doubt he will do a great job.

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    Jul 12th 2013, 2:54 AM

    He’s an incredibly annoying looking/ talking man, another embarrassment to our country.

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    Jul 12th 2013, 3:39 AM

    Somewhere there is a village missing an idiot

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    Jul 12th 2013, 4:49 AM

    Wrong Steve, FG is a whole village of idiots.

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    Jul 12th 2013, 7:57 AM

    @ Colm. Gay.

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    Jul 12th 2013, 10:36 AM

    @Simonjblake: What is that “gay” comment? Rather insidious. If you’re making an allegation about a TD or a poster (not sure which) then do it properly, don’t just drop the word in like that. Not that a person’s sexual orientation had anything to do with anyone else. Cowardly and a cheap shot.

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    Jul 12th 2013, 10:51 AM

    Calm down insider. I was calling Colm gay for giving Edna’s new whipping boy such an unashamed blowing. And why did you automatically assume Gay was bad? Says something about your perceptions perhaps.

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    Jul 12th 2013, 7:07 AM

    Another freeloader to pay a pension to.

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    Jul 12th 2013, 3:38 AM

    Once Lucy gets the pension that’s all I’m worried about

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    Jul 12th 2013, 7:51 AM

    She’s not entitled to a pension

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    Jul 12th 2013, 11:55 AM

    Yes she is. Entitlement to a Ministerial pension is achieved after two years of service.

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    Jul 12th 2013, 10:41 AM

    Top Quality Appointment.

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    Jul 12th 2013, 7:55 AM

    And so the merry-go-round begins. Shouldn’t we have the best person for the job not flip-flopping ministers so they get their pensions is not the way forward.

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    Jul 12th 2013, 9:01 AM

    Couldn’t believe this when I saw it! A small talent pool indeed! At least Creighton was competent, but this guy….? I still don’t think it’ll be enough to save a FG seat in Dublin Central. Unbelievable!

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    Jul 12th 2013, 11:09 AM

    Daffy duck on the gravy train now

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    Jul 12th 2013, 8:14 AM

    Ah a “yes man” thank god for that.

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    Jul 12th 2013, 10:09 AM

    This is fantastic news really really . Great news for him .

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    Jul 12th 2013, 11:42 AM

    Ah sweet, Endas’ little pet yes sir no sir 3 bags full sir

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    Jul 12th 2013, 4:03 PM

    I pity the poor translators working for the European Union.

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    Jul 12th 2013, 5:13 PM

    If Smithers were describing Donohue to Mr Burns he would describe him as ‘one of your chair moisteners from sector 7G’.

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