Stanley Hamas didn’t start this, why would they advocate the slaughter of their people and the ruination of their villages, towns and cities. They have no running water in many places.

@ Stanley Groves!!!!

Stan. G. In the house!!! Thought Eleaonr “expalin it to a child” Reidy was it!

“For over 26 years, I have dedicated my life to the defense of human rights. But the last month has been particularly hard for me. Death and the rubble of Gaza are like a tsunami. But as a Palestinian, I must admit: I am responsible for what happened. We can not deny our responsibility for our own dead.” –Bassem Eid
Israel Today “Most Palestinians are against missile attacks on Israel. But we elected Hamas with the knowledge that doing so would bring about the death of our own people. We knew Hamas was digging tunnels, which eventually lead to our own destruction. …Hamas also knew that an attack on Israel would result in a high death toll. But the Hamas leadership is only interested in their own victory, not about the people.”

“Hamas requires death. Death brings her power and money for more weapons. Hamas was never interested in liberating the Palestinian people from occupation. And Israel will not be able to destroy the infrastructure of Hamas in the Gaza Strip. Only we, the Palestinian people, can do that. The Palestinians in Gaza have to rebel against the Hamas regime.”
“Will we learn from this latest tragedy? I think so. We must first get rid of Hamas and demilitarize the Gaza Strip. Then the border crossings can be opened. And I say this as a loyal Palestinian. I say this because I care about the future of my people. ”

Why am I getting red thumbs I didn’t say anything, just pasted a statement from a “Palestinian” who can see the bigger picture.

But to admit anything other than its all Israels fault would be a sign of weakness for the popular cause of demonising all things Israeli.

No different to you Dhimmi trolls Hulk!

Neilo isn’t that the point he’s not exonerating Israel but pointing out the fallacy of the Palestinian peoples electing of Hamas and its total disregard for the safety of its own people for political gains.

Strange mandate don’t you think?, sacrificing your own to gain brownie points and the sympathy of the useful idiots.

William -How did the Palestinians vote for Hamas if Israel is the only democracy in that region ?

They have tried all other means since 1947 when their country was given away by the Brits! And like the Brits the only thing they understand is the bullet! America spends 3 billion a year maintaining the protective dome anti missile system over Israel! People In America have no jobs no health care no money no homes no food! Their government spends billions every year fuelling every war that’s goin instead if giving its people a better life! They create a monster and then go hunting it IE bin laden, the Taliban, Sadam Husain to name a few!

Now they back Israel and groom it like a little pet dog! It won’t be long before it bites it master

William how about the fallacy of the israeli people for electing right wing z!onist extremists for their government. Surely they are culpable for the rockets hamas fire at them by your logic?

US starts to distance itself from genocidal Israel.

” Israeli officials, speaking to the liberal Israeli newspaper, Haaretz, confirmed that delivery of a consignment of Hellfire missiles, which are fitted to helicopters, has been blocked by the US since late last month as part of the American decision to impose limits on the transfer of weaponry that could be used in Gaza. The suspension, the first of its kind in more than three decades, was first reported in an article in The Wall Street Journal on Thursday.
The article added that the Obama administration was convinced Israel had not done enough to minimise civilian casualties and that its concerns included the use of artillery rather than more precise weaponry in the densely populated coastal enclave.”

Yeah they did!! Shooting rockets into Israel. What did they expect is going to happen? Israel is going to sit there and just take it??? Well guess what???

Well said. Finally some trith

GOOOOOOOOGLE THE ANSWER

Right Stanley, by your logic if you hit me a dig in a pub I would be entitled to punch you in the face right back then kick and punch you wife, kids, and anyone else who’s with you. He’ll I might even steal your wallet, knock over your table and urinate on you. See how deranged you/Israel’s logic is? Psychopathic is a proper description.

My my are the UIFP very touchy on this thread don’t like been reminded by a Palestinian human rights activist of all people saying that Hamas are as much to blame for the plight of his people in Gaza as the hated Isarelis are.

Stephen you can try a bit harder than that yet another accusing me of been an Orange Loyalist just because I have an opposing view or is it the name “William” puts you in a cold sweat?.

I’d say the vast majority of flag wavers and stone throwers in the north on both sides wouldn’t be able to pick Israel out on a map or would you prefer if I called it Palestine?.

Here is the full article Neilo;

Hamas needs the Palestinians’
deaths in order to claim victory

For more than 26 years, I have dedicated my life to defending human rights. I have seen wars, terror, and abuse. Yet this past month – from the kidnapping and murder of three Jewish boys, throw the kidnapping and murder of Mohammed abu Khdeir, and to the war in Gaza – has been the most politically and emotionally difficult month of my life.

I live in East Jerusalem and I have witnessed the devastation of life in my city. Once again, Route 1 has become the dividing line between East and West. Jews and Arabs are afraid of each other’s shadows. Palestinian resident of Jerusalem have attacked the civilian infrastructure in Beit Hanina and Shoafat, causing massive damage to traffic lights, the light rail, and power supplies. I cannot accept this as civil protest – rather, it is pure revenge and retribution. And the co-existence for which I have struggled for my entire life – has been hanged and executed in the public square.

I am in pain.

There can be no doubt that the death and destruction in Gaza is a tsunami. Both peoples are hurting, but each side denies the other’s pain, and so the hurt is worse.

And yet, as a Palestinian, I must acknowledge: I am responsible for some of what has happened. As a Palestinian, I cannot deny my responsibility for the death of my own people.

The majority of Palestinians has opposed firing rockets into Israel. The Palestinians have understood that these rockets will achieve nothing. Palestinians have called on Hamas to stop firing on Israel and to try to negotiate with the Israeli occupation. But Hamas has never considered Palestinian needs – only its own political interests. And so they have continued to fire rockets at Israel, knowing full-well what the result would be: Hamas paved the road for the death of our people. We knew that Hamas was digging the tunnels that would lead to our destruction.

We all know that three people live on every square meter in Gaza, and Hamas knew that any attack by Israel would lead to massive death. But Hamas leaders are more interested in their victories than in the lives of their victims. Indeed, Hamas needs these deaths in order to claim victory. Death of its own people empowers Hamas, enabling it to accrue more money and more arms.

Hamas has never been interested in liberating the Palestinian people from the occupation. And Israel could never destroy the infrastructure set up by Hamas. Only we, the Palestinian people, could dismantle it.

What could we have done? The residents of the Gaza Strip had the responsibility to rebel against Hamas rule. Yes, Hamas’ control is deadly and people have been afraid to express their dissatisfaction with its rule and mismanagement. And yet, we abdicated our own responsibility to ourselves.

We knew this. And we let it happen.

Will these deaths – nearly 1,800 to date, nearly 0.1% of the population of the Gaza Strip – teach us a lesson that we will never forget? The lesson is that we must rid ourselves of Hamas and completely demilitarize Gaza. Then we will open up the border crossings. I say this as a loyal Palestinian and because I care for my own people.

I have no faith in the European and American initiatives. There is only one initiative that I can believe in and trust: a tri-lateral initiative that includes Egypt, the Palestinians and Israel. Otherwise, there will be no calm or quiet in Gaza or in Israel.

We must not allow the Gaza Strip to become the victim of Arab plots and intrigues. Egypt has always been the legitimate mediator, and had it been up to Egypt, many lives would have been saved. Qatar and Turkey have no relationship to the Palestinian people, and we have nothing in common. Qatar and Turkey have attempted to sabotage any and every attempt at a cease fire. In my opinion, at least two thirds of the Palestinian deaths are victims of Qatari and Turkish plots. We see what Qatar’s and Turkey’s meddling in Syria has led to; I do not want to see Qatar and Turkey establish a second Syria in Gaza.

Egypt knows that these plots are aimed against its own regime, too. We can only hope that Egypt’s president, Abdelfattah Assisi, will not be lost in the thick confusion surrounding the region, and that he will take his own people and us, the Palestinians, out of the Islamic and religious mud.

It is well-past high time for both the Israelis and the Palestinians to find an alternative to war. And yes, this is genuinely possible, with Egypt’s help.

Bassem Eid is a human rights activist and a political commentator.

Wait until ISIS move their focus on Israel. They will then know what it is like to be on the receiving end of violence.

As as I have seen Isis do not care about Palestine or Israel. They are working to a plan outside of nation states or heritage. Not that they don’t have the Koranic obsession with Jews.

They’ll focus on Israel when they have Syria, Iraq, Jordan and the Leb.

Well then why don’t Israel use it’s military might to destroy ISIS? Well the reason of course is that to do so would align themselves with Iran, the Shias and of course Hamas. ISIS created by the US armed by the US to bring down Assad.

Mossad trained the leadership of ISIS. It is a pillar of Z-ism that a foreign threat be present at all times to bind a nations people together for an aim they would not otherwise support.

Israel will not lie down to ISIS. Israel has been dealing with this kind for decades

Yes Richard, ISIS will know what it’s like to be on the receiving end of violence if they attack Israel.

As long as Israel does not have to rely on Iron Dome to protect it from ISIS’s artillery.

” Israel Defense Prize winner and aerospace engineering expert Dr. Moti Shefer stated simply that Iron Dome was one of the biggest bluffs ever seen.

He said, “There is no missile in the world today able to intercept missiles or rockets. Iron Dome is a sound and light show that is intercepting only Israeli public opinion, and itself, of course.”

“According to Dr. Shefer, Iron Dome is a part of a broad conspiracy, in which two interested parties afraid of peace are participating: the defense industries and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.”

http://www.globes.co.il/en/article-defense-prize-winner-shefer-iron-dome-is-a-bluff-1000954085

why was america funding and sending these guys arms in syria.

They’re not far wrong…

Howaya Buddhists!

Superb article by John Reynolds.

As to the reason why such things happen, with jewish Israelis’ 80% + in polls either believing ‘appropriate’ or ‘not enough’ (!) force was used against Gaza…. I think mirroring Hitler & Goebbels efforts in 1930s Nazism….

Thomas Sheridan has something interesting to say here:

Consiousness Parasites and Psychopathic Society.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I87hC8dcVU

Or… the short version…. we have allowed too many clinically psychopathic people (lacking normal human ‘empathy’ or conscience, from birth, incurably) to attain positions of power, control & public interest responsibility.

We now have reliable psychiatric tests for this condition, involving live brain scanning techniques.

Could it be as simple as that… get the psychopaths out of public office?

Actually, yes, I think it could, and over time, we could have an infinitely better world than the present one hurtling at increasing speed toward the abyss that few humans will survive.

People do need to be able to spend some un-distracted time out of (knee-jerk) Daniel Kahneman’s ‘Mode 1′ brain mode & into the more reflective ‘Mode 2′. (It doesn’t happen unless we make deliberate effort – we learn nothing new, and our abilities to evaluate & anylise atrophy if we don’t.)

(My interpretation from ‘Thinking, Fast and Slow’ by research psychologist Daniel Kahneman)

Name one people more civilized than the Israelite’s in the Middle East, just one. The Palestine’s, where gays and adulterers are still stoned, beaten and spat at? The Egyptians where literally hundreds of people at a time can be executed by the Government at a time? How about sectarian Iraq, war torn Syria or the Jordanians who fear an ISIS revolt because so many of their countrymen support a seventh century ideology? Yes, gay-tolerant, fully democratic, western ally Israel are so barbaric compared to the innocent Arabs that surround them.

“The Egyptians where literally hundreds of people at a time can be executed by the Government at a time?”

Notwithstanding the fact that this makes no sense grammatically, it’s also a lie. Unless of course you can tell us of even one specific time when any Egyptian government executed hundreds of people at a time.

Well?

John
If they are so “civilised ” then how come the rest of the Middle East won’t play football with them ?

@ Petr
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/10718387/Egypt-sentences-529-Mohammed-Morsi-supporters-to-death-in-single-trial.html

There you go.

You said hundreds of people can be executed at one time. That didn’t happen and the link you posted says nothing of the sort.

They got convicted by a court. That means it can happen and is perfectly legal in that country.

From the link you posted:

“Legal experts say it is likely to be overturned on appeal, rejected by the Grand Mufti, to whom all death penalties are referred, or commuted by the president – not least because of the international consequences of such an event. ”

Right so. Hundreds of people have never been executed in Egypt at the same time, and that’s unlikely to change any time soon. I’m glad we got that cleared up, and I’m sure you are too!

For most of 1900 years the ancestors of the Palestinians called it home, what Jews were there was so small as to be immaterial, blame the Romans for that.

Then in the late 1940′s, the Palestinians wake up one day and their home is now called Israel, they are bombed, shot and beaten out of their villages and towns at night by terror gangs. One million have to flee and Israel is proclaimed a racially pure majority state.

What is it but a colonial state. Going home after nearly 2000 years away and expecting the people who live there to not mind being burnt out of it because a 3000 yr old book says its yours.

Weasel
Why do you have to resort to personal attacks.
If you can’t debate properly maybe the journal isn’t the site for you.

Debate with you glen? You who constantly call people paid schills. Who patronises and attacks and demonises anyone who disagrees with you. Ok!

Weasel
You will find its jack ripper who constantly calls me a ” paid shill ” It’s kind of a running joke, well I find it amusing.

John Bransfield – My Late Father used an expression that ” bad would always beat worse ” and I think his expression would be very appropriate for something that you stated .
You try to justify the barbarity , genocide and murder of The IDF and The Israeli Government, on the basis that there are worse people out there and Israel can justify their huge crimes on that basis ?
Well John – I feel my Dad would be as thoroughly ashamed that the Israeli’s only learning from what happened in Europe in 1939/45 …… Was they themselves to imitate what The Nazi’s did ?
Now John – that’s not something that I would imagine anyone could be proud of , in the whole of this wide World.
You need to ashamed of yourself, trying to defend the indefensible …a Chara !

If Israel is in the Middle East then what is it doing in the Eurovision ?
Boycott the Eurovision !

They don’t recognize the State. Israel only has diplomatic ties with Jordan and Egypt. Syria is still at war with Israel and South Lebanon is controlled by the Hezbollah. The previous Iranian president had said on many occasions that he wanted to wipe Israel off the map and Saddam’s Iraq would rather fire SCUD missiles at Israel rather then invading Coalition forces in 1991. I wouldn’t play football with them to be honest.

John, it would not serve Israel’s interests to bring the Palestinian conflict to a resolution. The US pours billions of tax dollars into Israel, mostly military aid, and there is a risk this would cease if there was no conflict to justify it against. Public support for the transfer of money relies on the backdrop that currently exists.

In fact the American public should be encouraged to bring this aspect into their national debate. Why continuously fund a never-ending cycle of violence when there is never any progress towards a resolution. The provision of US tax dollars actually encourages Israel to maintain the status quo.

Try telling that to moderate Jews who live near a Hassidic community in Jerusalem, When they sent their girl children to school dressed as ordinary children would be, or their wives went out shopping with their head bare they were spat at and actually assaulted, just as the Muslim morality police do. The abuse got so bad at one stage that the government had to intervene. There are religious fanatics on both sides.

John they are no different than the worst islamic terrorist in the me. They butcher the palestinians because they are arabs much like the fundamentalist kill infidels. So they are no different and in fact fit in well with their neighbours

Clearly the ramblings of a delusional apologist for violence.

It’s never too late for help…

Just need your medications tweaked and vitals checked….hourly

eleanor, your comments clearly highlight the fact that the lsrealy people have been demonised since biblical times by each and every race that they have come in contact with. Do you not think that this pattern indicates that a change in Jewish methodology and attitude is necessary if they hope to live in peace with the their neighbours.

Germany fells in the 40′s, South Africa fell in the 90′s, Israel will reform in time.

Well written Eleanor. Not all of us are left wing terrorist lovers. The irony is mist people here also comment on how backward Ireland is in social rights like abortion, gay rights and women rights but can’t see that Hamas are kinda against that stuff

Prior to Hamas taking over ? Who created Hamas Petr ?

I’m afraid the flight from Egypt wasn’t much of a flight at all, the reality is a lot more boring and dull, there were no Israelite slaves, just Cannanite travelling labourers, there’s a reason they don’t teach the Bible in History Departments Eleanor.

Blood of 400 children dripping from the Israeli state. So the Jews ( wrongly) were treated extremely bad in the past somehow gives them the right to murder thousands of innocent people? Elinor ( or what ever your name is) are you working late at the embassy?

Eleanor, Einstein was German, not Israeli. Facebook is American, not Israeli. Intel is an American corporation, not Israeli.
You are doing Israelis no favors by quoting non-Israeli companies, people etc. There are Nobel prize winners (Jewish) who detest what Israel is doing to Christians and Muslims in Palestine.
Israel has lost all right to use ‘Jewishness’ as a defense for its actions. They have become a murderous terrorist state.

There was a man I met once and we were discussing Moses and the whole Exodus thing – He asked – “if they were slaves then where did they get all the Gold for the Golden Calf ?”
The discussion continued and he came to the conclusion that given the ancient tradition of Jews being revered as mathematicians – they were probably the Tomb designers – and if so then they were probably expelled by the Pharaoh for grave robbing because that was where the gold was and that if he was correct about the jewish being tomb builders then they would have been best positioned to rob the tombs !
I don’t know whether to believe him or not , but it does make sense on one level !
I am more of the belief that the jewish religion and the Hittites were linked as they disappeared after their greatest victory against Rameses and all because technical innovation to chariots and went to God knows where ….. they dispersed …and then Rome rose and Rome has given us the Jewish cult Catholicism !
There is something very wrong with what was and what was recorded – kinda like Enda being in line to be European President and holder of European Time man of the year and then Anglo Tapes came out !

Yeah you forgot to put murderers beside scientists.

I’m Irish 100% born in Kildare raised in the curragh went to Newbridge college , and you clearly don’t understand war. Easy to count 400 dead children sitting in your armchair safe in Ireland. Be on the frontline against woman stoning gay hanging islamofacists that want to oppress everyone who’s not Muslim and then talk. I’ve been there. Lived there for a few years, seen it first hand. No one wants death, every jewish Israeli I asked wants peace, to grow old and raise a family, but you don’t get it. It’s not Europe it’s not secular and being an infidel (not Muslim you moron) means not welcome.
Take out your cross necklace in Saudi Arabia or Egypt or Iraq and see what happens to you.
They have to not show weakness and if rockets and snipers are in schools and they don’t fire what happens the next day when they realize they can shoot freely from there.
20 rockets found in the un schools?! Are you people blind?
To demonise Israelis into bloodthirsty child killers makes you more Middle eastern than Irish

99.4% of jewish people support Israel and Facebook founder recently donated 30mil to israel foundation. And Einstein was Swiss you dumb bird and he was almost the president of Israel in the 50s before he died

Historically the banking money manipulators who plunder the wealth of nations plunging them into poverty is what has enraged nations against the new Jewish Khazar peoples for centuries. Of course the perpetrators escape with their wealth and the poor are left with punishment. It continues today.

Eleanor stop saying stuff like take “your cross out in Saudi Arabia” etc. So what? Does that give Israel a right to do what they do because we cant wear a cross? And clearly you are worried about a boycott because you can’t stop talking about it. Israel has done what the Nazis did to them. And fools like you justifying it because you where there thousands of years ago is just embarrasing.

He had German citizenship at q stage and American didn’t he?? Selective memory you have…dumb bird

Yes Jarlath, apologists for Islamic fundementalist violence!

Like your ancestors in Ireland, Gary?

“I’m Irish 100% born in Kildare raised in the curragh went to Newbridge college , and you clearly don’t understand war.” …
Has Mossad infiltrated the Irish Army in Kildare ? …or has there been a war in Kildare that I can’t remember to understand ?
Do we have to get a Geiger Counter to Dermot Earley’s grave ?

Elanor you seem to be blind to the fact that israel detains hundereds of children under the age of 18 for months at a time without trial. This is just one Of many examples of human rights violations your ‘beautiful thriving country’ does to innocent children. It is internement for minors, its sick. And no, they are not warriors, that too romantic and glorious. The people who carry out these atrosities are thugs, murderers and sorry excuses for human beings. J

@ Eleanor.

Are you an Irish Christian or an Irish Jew.
Interesting to see that you wrote god as G-d.

That’s how the observant religious Jews write it. Apparently it’s because they are afraid the name of god could be damaged which would be blasphemy so they mis spell it intentionally.

If you are observant no worries, welcome, but if you a shill would you mind clocking off and stop waffling

Netanyahu begs US to shield him from war crimes trial.

“Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu appealed to American legislators to help Israel stave off what is likely to be a concerted global push to haul the country’s military and political leaders to international courts for alleged war crimes committed in Gaza, The New York Post reported on Thursday.”

http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Protective-Edge/Help-Israel-avoid-war-crimes-charges-Netanyahu-urges-US-lawmakers-370352

Lies

The descendents of the people opressed by the Pharaohs and Ceasers are actually the palestinians, who converted to Islam and Christianity in the following centuries. So this is an imagined history, a thing many nations invent for themselves, to bolster their own identity, and to compare others as essentially less civilized. If the test of civilisation is about killing children, then Israel is not acquitting itself well. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28916761

Israel and Hamas – is there that much of a difference.

Look at what Israel did to the Black Jews, Apartheid South Africa didn’t even try that.

It is a crazy pariah state.

Boycott bpa. What’s the business line you are in? Using a business account to pass comment is not good for attracting new business.

Oh no, Eleanor’s mask has slipped, she actually believes Israel has a ‘biblical’ right to their land, ‘We were writing down the 10 commandments and introducing monotheism to the world’, you do realise how intellectually void that statement is, if you use holy books to justify genocide and war then you are no better than the Islamic fundamentalists ripping through Iraq and Syria at the moment. Religion has no place in modern progressive societies.

Israel could give a shet about European boycotts. It does 88% of its business with USA , Russia, China,and India. Besides we all know Europe is dying slowly. Stagnant economy being held up by Germany. As soon as England leaves we are all fcked. We made our bed now we must lay in it. Enjoy a 30% Muslim population by 2030

DM I believe in Jesus Christ and I’m not ashamed to say it. What’s happened to my country. Have we strayed so far from the love of our lord and saviour trash like dungeon master could make fun of us for having faith. Wake up people, don’t be turned to evil and condemned to hell.
By this alliance between left wingers and islamofacists.

Now she believes the writings of the bible as fact. Israel is a fascist country and committing war crimes

So you support the Boycott then? Am i reading it right?

The Israelofascists are very vocal again tonight. Usual fascist and racist slurs against Muslims. Israel has lost this war just like it lost against Hezbollah in Southern Lebanon. When you listen to Elinor she reminds me of Himmler. He believed in the purity and right of the nazis take land and murder whom ever got in their way. It’s incredible that Israel is now being compared to nazi Germany.

Eleanor, if you love Jesus so much, why support a terrorist state that has reduced the Christian population of Bethlehem by 90% over the last 20 years. The Christians living there in peace for centuries with their Jewish and Muslim neighbours until Israel took it over in 1967.

Eleanor, you have every right to believe in your imaginary friend, just don’t expect me to respect such childish nonsense, I don’t believe in any of that, because I’m not an idiot,

I’m confused, Eleanor has referred to Israel as we and then to Europe/Ireland as we, which is it?

Dead right Diarmuid. What was the name of that one that won the Eurovision ? She was a cracker !

Elanor, the muslim population of Europe is currently at 6%, and may reach 8% by 2030. Don’t be throwing out silly figures to justify your spurious arguments.

It’s ok BPA, I have told Super Valu and others that we will boycott them if they boycott Israeli goods, I think they got the message loud and clear!

Larkin, By my reckoning Israel won, and they will contnue to win!

Eleanor the far left lunatics are here don`t represent Ireland.

Operation “Red Cloud” has commenced and Israel despite its military prowess hasn’t the necessary acumen to arrest it. An impoverished spirit is a poor weapon against the legal onslaught that’s heading in Israels direction. They will hide behind their weapons of mass destruction wondering why they were forsaken.Outcast and isolated from the civilized world they will be the last to realize that they are the authors of their own misfortune such is the hold that their masters have over their thoughts. The reeducation program will be immense spanning several generations but slowly the world will repair the Israeli spirit and once again we shall have peace.

Eleanor, where do you get this stuff? The percentage of Jewish inhabitants of Israel that can trace their roots back more than 4 generations is tiny. There are approx. 6.1 million Jewish inhabitants today. In 1997 it was approx. 3 million. 47% of these were first generation and 42% were second generation, leaving only 11% (330,000) that could trace their roots back 3 generations on more. To suggest that Palestine has always been Jewish is a remarkable display of ignorance.

As for your attempt to justify the extermination of innocent Palestinian civilians as a desperate Israeli fight for survival, take a look at the expansion of the Israeli borders since 1947. It doesn’t take a genius to see that this is not the result of a defensive strategy. There is only one side that is engaged in a desperate fight for survival and they are the ones whose homes were bulldozed and families were destroyed to make way for an apartheid state.

And now eleanor when the irish are turning their backs on extreme religious views and have a greater moral standing than most countries in the world the israelis are bombing and murdering children all in the name of a z!onist interpretation of your same monotheist bullsh!t. Bet you must feel proud of your progress as a nation and as a people after 2000 yrs. If this is how you’ve evolved after that length of time your future will be bleak as a society in a multicultural world. Your wish for an insular society has left you a backward people much like your neighbours

The destruction of Israel was dropped from the Hamas charter in 2006 ! .. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/jan/12/israel

Gary, the Israeli still call for the destruction on Palestine in the charter of the ruling Israeli party.

No they don`t Milginte.

Pat yes they do . Look up and read the likud charter. Its as extremist and fundamentalist as anything in the hamas charter

IDF target / kill unarmed civilians.

“Warning families to flee fighting doesn’t make them fair targets just because they’re unable to do so, and deliberately attacking them is a war crime,” Whitson said.

Human Rights Watch investigated several incidents between July 23 and 25 when, local residents said, Israeli forces opened fire on civilians trying to flee Khuza’a, but no Palestinian fighters were present at the time and no firefights were taking place.”

http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/08/04/gaza-israeli-soldiers-shoot-and-kill-fleeing-civilians