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ECONOMIC PROBLEMS WERE not the only reasons why Irish people decided to up and leave the country in the past.
Physical and sexual abuse and parents with alcohol or drug problems were listed as some of the main reasons why Irish people emigrated.
The findings are from a recent ESRI report that looked into the causes and consequences of migration through the experience of Ireland’s older people.
Data from over 8,000 people aged 50 and over and who had returned to live in Ireland was collected between late 2009 and early 2011.
The survey found that 16 per cent of men who lived outside of Ireland for up to 10 years had experienced physical or sexual abuse as children. For men who had stayed in Ireland, the corresponding figure was just under 10 per cent.
While 13 per cent of men who lived outside of Ireland for between six months and 10 years indicated that their parents had alcohol or drug problems, when compared to 7.5 per cent of stayers.
A similar pattern is seen for women who were categorised as short-term migrants – 13 per cent had experienced physical and/or sexual abuse when compared to eight per cent of women who decided to stay in Ireland.
Both categories of men indicated they had experienced stress in their lives, with the return migrants more likely to have suffered from alcohol problems.
This was also found to be the case for female migrants who had lived outside of Ireland for less than 10 years. However, women who had lived outside of Ireland for 10 years moved to employment and to live economically independent, which they could not do in Ireland.
The findings of the report also indicates that social isolation is a feature of the lives of Ireland’s return migrants.
Between 45 per cent to 62 per cent of men (depending on the length of time back in Ireland) were said to be socially isolated. This compared to just over 30 per cent of those who have never left.
For women who stayed, a third are modestly or mostly isolated, which compares to between 39 and 46 per cent of return migrants.
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Id like to see all the candidates and all qualifications and processes and reasons why he was better than everyone else.
I’d rather vote for his brother Mick the Bull any day! Check out this video from Dave McSavage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCt787qneQw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Quaaaaaaaares
Les
Why do you think its any of your business?
Because quite simply it stinks Garry..country is never going to change.
Did you apply for the job Les?
I think he’s very well qualified – he has a wealth of legal knowledge and plenty of experience high up in large national organisations. Best of luck to him.
Garry / James you ask why it would be any business of Les to enquire as to Andrews qualifications to take this job. I guess seeing as Les may be a tax payer he is entitled to ask that seeing as Ireland does provide funding to the charity involved?
A legitimate question deserving of a worthy answer, I think.
jobs for the boys… cousin tubs on late late… old age pensioner gaybo is the road safety authority chief. Wat would he know about road safety? prob had a chauffeur all his life anyway. sickening.
Spot on Kerry.
Jobs for the boys
Exactly Brian, Garry take note!
Les
I don’t like these big Charities and their big spending and their big Government receipts and their big salaries but they do have an Independent Board who dealt very …….well…..with the current ……vacancy and I think that these people are not subject to your whims and needs. I am sure that all candidates for the position had a fair hearing if they were short listed and they all knew the approximate salary levels for the job which will be published at year end like the previous incumbent’s .
Why do you believe that you’re entitled to this information now.
Les and Joan
P.S.
This Organisation is not State owned or Managed so who they appoint as CEO is their business not yours.
They get a nice chunk of our money each year so I think we’re entitled to express a view!
Great to see the failed junior minister for children who did nothing when the reports were coming about priests diddling with children, kids in care were abused, etc etc…. no better place than to have him responsible for the most vulnerable ?! His FF Dad would be very proud.
Well that’s one charity crossed off my list to never ever donate to.
is there no end to the corruption in Ireland will the people wake up .
Unfortunately we live in a country where pull and cute whorism is applauded. having met this guy in person… he is a windbag.
also a relative of Ryan Tubridy who didn’t pull any strings to get his job either.
GUBU.
FF slime. It will put a lot of people off giving to Goal.
Another reason why i donate to local charities all these big (business) charities are a joke they eat up funds paying staff and expenses. With local charities such as raffles and table quizzes for old folks etc. This appointment just reaffirms my belief or lack thereof in the big charities.
and he qualifies for this position how? this is concerning!
Think it was the Red Cross.
Petr
The only thing you give is guff!
Maybe he qualifies as someone trained as a Teacher, a Barrister and spent three years as a Minister?
It must be great to have the right connections. This country is a cesspit.
A Joke . No more contributions to Goal from me.
From one corrupt post to the next
Own Goal
How much annually do the government give to Goal? This is a corrupt politician. Look up corrupt in the Oxford dictionary and it defines it as”dishonest”. The whole thing stinks to high heaven. I think Goal have no moral compass or are a bunch of money driven power seeking people.
What evidence do you have to implicate him in any corruption?
Donncha, he was in FF during the Celtic tiger years. If you actually believe these boys were legit and doing what they did because the believed it was for the good of the country you are bordering mentally defective.
As much as I appreciate the psychological analysis, I’d still like to see some evidence that Andrews is a ‘corrupt politician’. Assuming that that the original poster believes corrupt equates with dishonest, then pretty much everyone is corrupt. Otherwise it’s just good old fashioned venting.
Good old fashioned venting is the best kind
They don’t even attempt to hide it anymore….corrupt b@stards. Any charity should be forced to open its books and disclose its source of income,running costs and where its funds are being spent.
Just another job for one of the boys on a big pension,and here he is getting another big job with very very good money in, and let me tell you money is these type of people’s gods.Watch this space Fingers and Seanie will get some big post in the near future , maybe heads of the IMF or Forth Knox .
A Joke . No more contributions to Goal from me.
Maybe he is suitable for the job. Why do us Irish have to be complaining about someone. Are we that small minded?
yes its very hard to read f fail and charity in one sentence.
suitable fianna fu@#$n fail
We’ve have so much negativity in the past few years can we not have positivity now. Lets stop looking back and just look forward. Theres no future in the past.
Yer talking $hite there Kevin
Wonder if his salary will be made public. I really don’t think he’s doing it for nothing just the goodness of his heart. And I wouldn’t say it’s for the average industrial wage.
Just when you think Africa cannot possibly incur any more bad luck….
His big brother David would do a much better job, President for Life would get people flocking to donate.
So would I
It’s great to be well connected. They won’t be getting a cent from me ever again.
What most of above have said….ie “corrupt” politician gets another cushy number,jobs for boys ect…Anyhoo…..surely by now we all must realise these so called ” charities “are just money hungry cash cows that pick on people like a scab on their humanity.
Who low will these people stoop?
ANDREWS and his cronies bankrupted this Country and now they are attacking the charities
He will do for Goal what his cousin Tubidy did for The Late Late
Very little
Joke, joke, joke
Would be interesting to know what other people they interviewed.
Simon
It’s a private Company so it’s none of your business.
I think Garry you might find its a charity who look for donations from Irish citizens so maybe it is in the interest of the Irish public to know who else was interviewed and the reasons why Andrews was selected?
You couldn’t be more wrong Garry. Charities get tax concessions and also money from the state and the citizens. You, my foolish friend are all of these groups paying for it so you should make it your business to know where your money is going.
I think it is great to see the return of a Fianna Fail dynasty to the zeitgeist.
Makes me feel like it is pre-bubble Ireland again.
The memories of sweet 2004. Bertie leader of FF for 10 years, GBP22 million robbed from Northern Bank in Belfast, Mary Lou getting elected as an MEP. The good times.
Terrible choice. The Fianna Fail bucket-heads will be out screaming ‘vote Andrews’. Coming soon to a neighborhood near you.
That makes absolutely no sense. How can you vote (or advocate voting) for someone that’s just left politics?
i have absolutely no time at all for f fail but i can say that i have met this guy a few times on business matters and he comes across as a staight forward and honest individual. i have no doubt he achieved this position on merit.
Honest. Come on son. Honest people do not succeed in Irish politics. And they certainly do not enter ff
@Simon, Its time we matured as a nation and stop with this begrudgery.
@ BungaBungaPatrick Or achieved the Position for his Phone Book #
The ultimate “own goal” – no more support for Goal from me.
Same here Edmond Hickey No more donations is my GOAL
Just shows how totally corporate charities have become and completely divorced from the goals of reducing poverty and inequality they claim they believe in. They’re all just another stop on the gravy train for our incestuous elite. Business tick, politics tick, media tick, NGO tick. This should really fill out this dynastic tosser’s CV and if he licks the right arses he might even land a job in the UN in a few years’ time!
Anytime I see him, I think blackadder.
#moneyInTheBank
Shooting. Foot. Self.
Goal & UNICEF Ireland both-appoint 2 Ex government FF TD’s as their new bosses.how transparent was the job process or just the usual political old boys and girls network employed.
One more reason to make sure Irish people Don’t give money to these aid Organizations as these individuals were part of the golden circle that put this country into penury.
They are a lovely family
FORMER TD Chris Andrews submitted his resignation from Fianna Fail after being told he was under investigation by his party for anonymously criticising constituency rivals on the internet.
Mr Andrews has admitted using a Twitter account in the name of “brianformerff” to criticise Dublin South East constituency rival Councillor Jim O’Callaghan — the brother of ‘Prime Time’ presenter Miriam O’Callaghan — and Sarah Ryan, the daughter of former Fianna Fail MEP Eoin Ryan.
He had also used the fake account to criticise “dynasties” in Fianna Fail, even though he himself is a grandson of former minister Todd Andrews, a son of former TD Niall Andrews and a cousin of former junior minister Barry Andrews — all part of the Fianna Fail family.
A party source said that Mr Andrews was contacted two weeks ago after the party got a complaint that he was making potentially defamatory remarks about party members. “The process had started and Chris was given the opportunity to respond to it,” the source said.
Fianna Fail had been given a 35-page dossier about the fake Twitter account containing computer records and photographs of Mr Andrews. It was supplied by the husband of one of the women criticised in it.
Fianna Fail did not receive any response from Mr Andrews to its disciplinary investigation — and the first it heard of his resignation was when he announced it in the ‘Sunday Independent’ yesterday.
Mr Andrews was elected as a TD for Dublin South East in 2007 but lost his seat last year. He had been appointed by leader Micheal Martin as a local area representative in Dublin, and the party was expecting him to run in the 2014 local elections and, possibly after that, for the Dail.
Regret
He will now be unable to face any disciplinary action from Fianna Fail because he is no longer a member.
He could not be contacted last night but he had earlier told the ‘Sunday Independent’ that he was responsible for the fake Twitter account.
“It was the wrong thing to do. I regret doing it. For someone who is generally outspoken and not afraid to speak out, I regret that I did not say things publicly six months ago,” he said.
His fake tweets included one criticising the election of former Fianna Fail councillor Sarah Ryan — whose twitter account is ‘SarahCatRyan’ — to the party’s national executive.
“FF say they want change from past but they still elect to continue dynasties like @SarahCatRyan to internal positions in party!!”, it read.
Another called for RTE to question Mr O’Callaghan for his legitimate work as a barrister representing former Fianna Fail chief fundraiser Des Richardson at the Mahon Tribunal.
Mr O’Callaghan said last night that he did not wish to comment. Ms Ryan could not be contacted for comment.
Mr Andrews’s use of the fake account was uncovered by an extraordinary tracking operation mounted by the husband of one of the women being criticised anonymously by him.
It involved setting up a fake Twitter account called “john_cant_type”, posting messages with links to articles to the “brianformerff” account used by Mr Andrews, and hoping he would click on the links to identify the computer he was using. Once he did, he was traced to the Amazon internet cafe in Rathmines, Dublin.
According to the ‘Sunday Independent’, the man investigating Mr Andrews took covert photographs and video recordings of him visiting the cafe at times when the tweets were sent from the “brianformerff” account.
Both the fake “brianformerff” and the “john_cant_type” Twitter accounts have been shut down.
- Michael Brennan Deputy Political Editor
Irish Independent
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so I guess we can judge based on your relative’s actions as well?
Arrogant and smug as a TD.
Why did the article mention his family ties to broadcaster Ryan Turbidy and not to his brother Dave Mcsavage who is also employed by Rte.
Either way in my opinion its another case of jobs for the boys and Goal will not see another cent from me.
What grim man – he’d scare the bejesus out of ya by his mere look. Obviously GOAL couldn’t find anyone better than a former FF politican. I won’t be supporting them again – dont want a single cent of mine going to the pocket of Andrews.
the galway tent will be back next year
The amount of bile from some people on these types of forums is terribly sad.
The man has a new job. GOAL have selected Mr Andrews as their new CEO. He’s well liked, well connected, intelligent and articulate. This is exactly the sort of person GOAL needs to steady the ship and develop from here. I think it’s a wise move from them.
GOAL is an independently run organisation – not an arm of the state. The idea that because we give a few quid to an organisation gives us significant rights over that organisation is ludicrous. This logic suggests that anyone dropping coins in a charity workers bucket can tell them what to do or how to do it – which is obviously nonsense.
Good luck Mr Andrews – it sounds like you are going to need it.
David Andrews chaired the Irish Red Cross, a tainted organisation for years, hushing up wrongdoing.
Will Barry be any different?
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