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DECLAN GANLEY has issued calls for a move to a flat “fair” tax rate for all workers – and a guaranteed minimum basic income for welfare recipients.
This evening Ganley outlined calls for a tax system where all income, capital gains and acquisition taxes would be levelled against income.
The calls came at an event at a city centre hotel where the former Libertas leader also criticised the use of party whips in Irish politics, called for a revision of the EU’s current agenda, sought reform of Ireland’s bankruptcy laws, and slammed plans to legislate for abortion.
“I believe in life… In the conviction that every individual is created equally and uniquely and that it is never our right to take an innocent human life – as individuals, or as a state,” he said.
“This abortion legislation will legalise the taking of innocent human life, removing the shield of law from one part of humanity. It is the essence of discrimination.”
Ganley said he advocated the introduction of a ‘FairTax’ principle, similar to one previously proposed in the United States. In that instance in the States, a sales tax of 30 per cent would be the only tax that most people ever paid.
Ganley did not specify a sales tax but in the US proposal, that is combined with automatic rebates for low-income families so that they were not unduly burned by the higher cost of living – while the rate of tax would be adjusted each year depending on the government’s fiscal performance in the previous year.
The idea is generally seen as being progressive in that those who consume more, pay more – but also regressive in that those on higher incomes pay proportionally less tax than others because they tend to spend less of their cash.
Ganley acknowledged that this meant someone of his means would do well, but defended the proposal by saying it would mean “I will pay whatever rate society decides I pay”.
This was better than the current system, where high tax rates for top earners could be undone by exploiting various loopholes and tax credits.
Ganley claimed the idea would make Ireland’s taxes among the lowest in Europe, and would mean everyone had more money in their pockets to help boost the domestic economy.
The businessman also argued for the consolidation of miscellaneous welfare payment schemes into a “guaranteed single payment, paid directly into a person’s bank account when they become unemployed”.
“I believe it is possible to guarantee every person in this country a basic income, and to at the same time abolish a lot of the red tape and administration that is involved in making the welfare system so unnecessarily complicated,” he said.
He said this would ensure that people in need of help could live in dignity, without “constant queues in depressing government offices” to seek the financial aid they needed.
He added that such a system would end practices where some families could accumulate enough welfare payments to survive without work, while others were forced to work long and difficult hours for a similar income.
The former Libertas leader also called for further reform of Ireland’s bankruptcy laws so that those who took risks to grow a business and create jobs were not unduly punished – by allowing them to return to a regular financial life, “six months to a year” after all of their assets had been sold off to repay their debtors.
The public meeting, at the Davenport Hotel in Dublin, was convened by Ganley to outline the platform for a new political movement which was “conviction, rather than consensus-driven” – testing the waters to gauge public interest in setting up such a movement.
Ganley further criticised the use of party whips to stifle dissent among members of political parties, saying he did not imagine that any Fine Gael TDs had run for office so that they might “be forced or coerced into voting on Eamon Gilmore’s conscience.”
Describing himself as a “European federalist” because of his belief in the potential of local government, the former European Parliament candidate criticised the EU’s current agenda where it spent less time trying to fix economies and more time banning images of babies on tins of milk formula or restricting turf-cutting rights.
Acknowledging his own difficulties at the ballot box, both in the European elections and in his defeat on the Lisbon II and Fiscal Compact referendums, Ganley quoted Winston Churchill: “Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without any loss of enthusiasm.”
He added that he was a “natural optimist” – “there is not much point in being anything other.”
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Imagine what this plan would do to tourism! Who is going to want to come here and pay extremely high VAT rates when they have to go home and pay income tax too?
Well, to be fair were one to abolish other kinds of costs prices won’t rise all that much.
As costs will be lower due to other taxes being lower, price will have a downward pressure on it also.
So you won’t be effectively paying an extra 8% on the current tax rate, as prices won’t go up proportionately.
Apologies, I meant “abolish other kinds of tax”.
Your spot on Cillian. I think this proposal is very progressive, but Im not sure people will get it as we are nervous of change.
The problem with this idea is northern Ireland people would earn there tax free money here & head north to spend it.
@cillian …. I assume you missed school every day they covered economics, first off everyone gets paid tax free, therefore way more disposable income leading to inflation. Consumption taxes are the reason we are in the mess we are in, a false economy built on stamp duty. Anyone getting a new job would get a lower income due to the abolition of taxes causing a two teir economy.
And not to mention a pesky thing called the internet, which would mean pay no tax for anything if bought on line
….. And there was I thinking ganley is a fool
Anything you buy online is subject to customs. I”ve bought a laptop and a phone online in the last month and had to pay about about 15-20% for each of them.
not if you buy from within the EU..
A person on minimum wage would pay the same tax as a millionaire!! Ridiculous. Ireland is expensive enough.
Tourists will be entitled to a rebate,
Not if they live in the EU
Cillian wins the dumbest comment of the day award. Since when does having more miney in the pockets of consumers lead to deflation?
More money in consumers pockets = consumers buy more =
More demand for goods =
Supply is reduced =
Increased inflation.
No just urself
Declan Ganley believes in liberty. But not the liberty for Women to choose to do what they can or can’t do with their own bodies.
Conor, it is a criminal offence in this country to possess and take certain drugs. This means that YOU do not have that right over your own body. The protection of life is vital for the stability of society. To decide who should live or die should never be enshrined in legislation.
John, what a fantastic response. Lol. Also two different heartbeats and strands of DNA shows two different unique human beings, one vulnerable and the other responsible.
Its over stephen legislation is passed.no one intrested in your supersticious nonsense move on.
Quite right.
Of course, anyone who is in favour of allowing abortion in cases of incest or rape isn’t anti-choice. They just presume to know better than a woman herself what the best choice is.
A foetus cannot survive outside the womb until a certain threshold, which at the moment is what, 22 weeks or so? (I’m not going to argue the toss on that one, so don’t waste your time. Happy to be given the right number, though).
Certainly until that time it’s a parasite, and one which is STILL potentially life-threatening. As far as I’m concerned abortion is and always will be a personal choice for the woman alone (and any *religious* objections people have are utterly irrelevant. Your religion might be important to you, but keep it to yourself, please. There’s no reason to infect everyone else with your insanity).
You refer to a fetus as a parasite? You are one sick individual, I suppose you are just a fully matured parasite then?
well said.
So a millionaire and a PAYE worker would end up paying the same tax rates? Not a chance. Ridiculous idea.
The current tax system might not be fair but replacing it with an even more unfair one isn’t the answer.
50k @ 20% = 10k
100k @ 20% = 20k
1Mill @ 20% = 200k
So the person earning more is paying more.. How is that unfair?
Might actually give people a reason to work harder and try harder. Atm you get to a point and after that there is little or no incentive to put in the extra mile.
Not necessarily, goods and services could be categorised into different bands. For example school books and children’s clothing and food could be at 5% VAT whereas luxury cars, racehorses and property valued over €1,000,000 could be at 40% VAT.
The idea has merit, I’m just trying to think of the pitfalls.
The millionaire probably has a myriad of ways to avoid/evade paying tax, so your point is moot. I think Ganley’s idea is incomplete. Couple a sales tax with a tax on all unearned income and you are getting much closer to a fairer system. Taxation in the early days of the United States worked this way. Payment for labour was not viewed as “profit” but as a fair exchange. Taxation was concentrated on activities that generated a profit for individuals or companies. It worked and unemployment remained relatively low until the system was changed in 1913.
Rather the person spending more is paying more, but your point is valid. However, with a current standard VAT rate of 23%, what would the rate need to be to replace income tax etc. ?
Tell us more Tom
Just thought of a loophole. If there was no tax on labour but a tax on profits, then a clever employer would simply pay himself a ‘bonus’ via the payroll at the end of year. The business would declare ‘zero’ profits.
Good thinking Stephen and if we spent all night thinking about it I’m sure we’d think of a lot more loopholes. Rich people would spend less and hoard their money. Less well off would try not spend where possible as they would be getting hammered with tax buying anything
I’ve tried and failed to explain this to so many people. Just like you have and most people think the 20% tax is unfair
( lots of red thumbs )
I think it’s the best way. Earn more pay more simple I guess most people just want people who earn more than them to pay for everything !
@brian, person earning tax free €20,000 pays new higher sales tax on every thing they buy to live. Person earning €1,000,000 tax free whom can afford to fly to Europe to buy what ever they want pays euro 15% vat rate. Seems fair to me……not.
I think this is a great proposal. One part I like is how it inadvertently attacks the “black economy”, as those cowboys pay no income tax anyway, so they will be caught for the taxes when they soend their cash. Nice one!!
VAT is a tax on what you purchase, poor person and the rich person pay the same tax on whatever product they buy.
So a rich guy sending his kid to school pays the same tax on school equipment as a poor guy. Right now that’s balanced out (somewhat) by income taxes, but if Ganley gets his way it won’t be.
Now take the regular costs of life from the amount remaning after taxes and check who has more disposable income left after that.
What do you mean by unearned income? Just tryna get my head around it
@Noel
“So a rich guy sending his kid to school pays the same tax on school equipment as a poor guy.”
And the problem with this is?
Are you saying the rich guy is basically just a cash cow that should be taken for everything he has got?
That he is somehow a scammer that clearly must have cheated his way to this money?
Earn more, pay more is Income Tax David and is what Declan is looking to abolish.
He’s hoping to replace this with earn more, spend more
Dont get me wrong, this is a crap idea.
But we should be looking at a fixed income tax. No schemes, no loopholes, just one flat tax for everybody.
Only really fair way of doing it. The guy who earns a little pays a little, the guy who earns a lot pays a lot. It baffles my mind that people dont get it..
Probably??
Think of taxes as of the price you’re paying for the privilege of living in a relatively safe and privileged country, @Brian Henoll. (Also, why should the poorer subsidise the taxes of the more affluent members of the society?)
argh, second ‘privileged’ should be ‘civilised’ (relatively, of course.)
@Miroslaw Baran
But they are not? So not sure I get your point.
They earn more = they pay more.
I’ve no problem with reducing the amount of money governments confiscate from peoples labour.
However anchoring your tax base around sales / value added taxes requires perpetually high consumer demand.
That obviously is not always possible.
In the event of a slump in consumer demand government revenue would collapse.
Makes a lot more sense than taxing (disincentivising) production, however.
Joey can you explain why cyclical consumer demand gets to a collapse please.
Ahah! Love your anti-tax rhetoric.
We also have he situation of cross border shopping in Ireland too, in my job were continually undercut by companies in the north selling the same product as us VAT free, straight away were 23% more expensive
Charlie, if consumer demand is cyclical then would that not create a constant boom-to-bust tax system? I don’t think we’ve had great success with such systems in the past. If you miss a boom for some reason, that’s your tax base fu*ked.
It would seem to me that if implemented, it would disproportionately affect working class people, rather than the wealthy, no? As if the working class just has it so easy at the minute!
Well I guess the roads to the north would be pretty packed!!
All the jammy rich people would be first in the queue heading up
Yeah, or just buy everything online. fairly ludicrous.
For such an accomplished businessman, Declan Ganley is some moron.
Is he really the best the Americans can plant here?
Hopefully?
An opportunistic fraudster!
If you want that type of tax system then ya better be ready to accept their social state and lack of supports.
Great if you are on 100k+. Hell if you are not.
If someone earning 90k a year needs government ‘supports’ then we’re truly f**ked.
Call him an idiot if you like ,but taxing us to breaking point isnt the answer either.
Our income taxes aren’t high. A single person on 40k looses 25% in total income taxes.
Income is only one part of the picture. All the other taxes are the killer. The ones you cant see like Inflation.
Declan Ganley is an Irish version of the American teabagger.
…nope, he’s an American version of the Irish teabagger.
Every time he has tried to gain a foothold in ireland politically he has received a pasting, yet here he is again dusted down and ready for another smackdown. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome does not portray a man in full possession of all of his faculties.
The entrepreneur in him I suppose.
His politics are very odd and will not get past a lunatic fringe.
He’s an odious moron, who seems incapable of getting the point.
I certainly wouldn’t support his tax policies outlined here, but to say he has received a pasting is false. In the European Parliament Elections in the 3 seater North West Constituency he came 4th with over 67k first preference votes. If that’s a pasting what does it say of the candidates from the 4 main parties who finished way behind him. The only Labour Party candidate in the field didn’t even manage 29k!
Mans a genius put him in charge if the country
Declan Ganely….repeatedly defeated on his various right wing poltical mantras…now tries pathetically to raise his profile again on the coat-tails of an emotive issue that has nothing to do with politics. The saddest man in Irish politics today. But still….if he wants to make an eejit of himself again who are we to complain? p.s. Where’s the money coming from this time Declan? Extreme right wing anti-abortion US organisations perhaps?
More utter claptrap from Ganley
I’ve read his book. I’ve been to a speech of his back when. These ideas he espouses are a tad different to what he espoused at the time. But lookit, if I buy a good or service in the E.U. and pay local VAT, say 19%, then the Irish Government cannot tax me on it again as I’ve already paid tax. So how do you work the 30%?
Except in the case of VRT. The most grotesque of all the taxes.
True Paul. And booze and tobacco.
Declan is a tryer, I’ll give him that!
The single tax is a bad idea, it’s predicated on high consumer spending. It’d be like abolishing all tax except stamp duty back in 2003. All fine and dandy until people stopped buying houses…then you’re up the creek.
I love his little sop to the pro-life group too. I doubt he cares that much.
Declan ganley…. Forgotten but not gone…. Anyone else in favour of a tax on Declan ganleys?
Ganley is a prat. Income tax is a necessary evil, at least it is fair in so much as it is based on ability to pay. We already have indirect taxation through VAT, which is bad enough. Corporations making huge profits need to bear a fair share of the tax burden, at present they don’t. A “transaction tax” has been suggested, based on trading of shares and suchlike. That would raise revenue without disproportionally burdening the man in the street.
American style GOP policies are NOT going to help us here, perhaps Ganley should feck of to Washington, and good riddance.
scared of “foreign” ideas then?
The idea is bad not because of the fact that it is foreign but because it is simply bad economics. We should encourage the transfer of value via money, not hinder it by increasing VAT.
Ability to pay may have been somebody’s intent some time.
No longer works that way.
The big earners pay very little or no tax, exploiting every loophole to benefit themselves and the Gov are doing Zilch about it, the ornery (intended, we have been driven to be ornary) tax payer pays through the nose.
Of course it’s bad economics, Dennis. It’s mental in fact.
@Kevin
Ganleys proposal would make things worse. The poorest in society currently pay 0% VAT on neccessary itmes such as food. They pay little to no income tax. Under Ganley’s proposal, they would see an overnight increase of 30% in the VAT they pay on items necessary to live, and they wouldn’t benefit from a cut in income tax, as they don’t pay any income tax anyway.
Meanwhile, the rich would get an income tax cut, and would be more likely to hoarde their money, or spend it outside of Ireland in order to avoid the 30% rate of VAT.
Either Ganley is looking for tax cuts for the rich at the behest of the poorest in society, or he is a complete tool who hasn’t thought this populist nonsense through.
He has my vote.
And mine!
Just you get the leaving cert first, lads.
And mine! I don’t know whether he is right or wrong but at least the man can think “outside the box”. We need more people like him to come up with new ideas, as to how we can stop digging the hole deeper! Colin Murphy criticises him for “doing the same thing, over and over again”. Is that different to what our government are doing?
And my Axe!!!
Yer mean Seanie though outside the box too!
As did Bertie and Charlie.
Oh and Fitzpatrick and the Anglo circles.
They all “thought outside the box.” Funny that.
Still laughing. With yokes like this managing this country. .. There is no wonder we are in the hole.
This guy. Ugh.
Total D…k head.
I hope the Journal will be fair and allow the Christian Solidarity Party an article expressing their views next….they’ve had about the same political success as Ganley and his loons.
Populist nonsense. The man would seek to deregulate banks and allow the education and health systems in the country to go to pot.
In case you havent noticed they already are.
Why does the Journal give a plonker like him air time?
The man is an idiot
We all need to pay more tax and help out the unemploymed people who sat out drinking all last week while we worked. They all have lovely tans tho
Sorry, but the majority of those who sat out in the sun drinking and squandering money that could have been spent on their families, last week were employed!
Ha! I was only saying that to a guy in work today that you could spot them all that way
Hit anyone on over 75,000 and hit them hard
Ah yeah hit the man hard who worked for his bread and deserves it as a result. Treat him unequally and take his money off him. You wouldn’t happen to be related to Stalin would you? Communism seems to be thriving on the journal recently.
Not a very christian response stephen where is the love what would jesus say
@Stephen McElligott: you wouldn’t recognize communism even if you were living for years in one of the Moscow’s hotels for foreign tourists.
Jesus wasn’t taxed the way we are !!!
What’s your Salerno? €69999.99?
What is your salary, €74,999.99?
Stalin was not a communist. He was a State capitalist. Lenin was a communist who said that communism could never be started in Russia until it would develop from Western advanced capitalism, as Marx had concluded. His plan was to establish a form of socialism in Russia and then wait for communism to develop from advanced capitalism. Marx was right when he said that capital would eventually take over society completely as we see today: before advancing into socialism and then communism.
which one, Karl or Groucho? it’s always hard to tell.
You must have matched from history classes in school if you are finding it hard to tell one from the other!
ridiculous suggestion.
income tax is (or should be) by its very nature a form of redistributing income progressively. i.e. the more you earn, the higher the RATE you pay. to say that earning more, spending more and as a result paying more VAT in absolute terms = progressive taxation is at best a misapprehension of what “progressive taxation” means, but rather more ominously a deliberate attempt to confuse and sow misinformation.
expenditure tax is regressive by nature, in that it affects lower income earners more than higher income earners. if you earn less, you have less surplus income. thus you are likely to spend all of your income on essentials, thereby paying a total rate close to the headline 30%. a higher income earner will likely have surplus income left over. if you don’t spend this surplus income, your overall tax rate is diluted below 30%.
so as a result you have higher income earners paying a lower effective tax rate than lower income earners. this is a textbook definition of a regressive taxation system.
i note that mr ganley proposes to address this through a form of “automatic rebate” for lower earners, but details of how this would operate are unsurprisingly lacking…
Great to hear some new positive ideas, probably needs some tweaking but we need alternatives to existing systems and very average leaders both here in Ireland, Europe and further afield!! Would be keen to hear more of this type of thinking!!!
Paul this kind of thing encourages the “valuation” of money. It gives money an inherent value in and of itself. Money is meant to be a means of transferring units of value between economic actors, but this encourages NOT doing that.
Yeah, great idea. That way we will discourage spending in the economy, and the importing of goods into Ireland from the EU to avoid VAT. You will also see that investments are not taxed so that rich bankers can hoard more and more money tax free while people who spend most of their money on food have proportionally huge rates of tax.
In a climate where we should be forcing money out of bank accounts and into real production value this would do the complete opposite. This guy is showing once again that he is a proxy for the neo-conservatives in the States.
It’s a terrible idea from an economic and from a social point of view.
For an intellegent man Mr Ganley can be quite a hair brain,with no income tax, and a country deep in recession,with an economy not devoloped enough with sucessfull local enterprises, the 30 pc sales tax would have to be ajusted upwards when sales fell which is more than likely over the course of a given period in a recession hit country,and would have to reach the former income tax rates to sustain even the most basic services,i like the man but some of his ideas are not thought out too well and is the likely reason his Libertas party failed
So basically he’s saying he likes regressive taxes.. Not exactly the best taxation policy if you’re trying to attract voters for a new party.
I think this man speaks a lot of sense. I hope people have the respect to listen and look into his proposals.
Surely a businessman is better to propose ways in securing a prosperous economy rather than a retired primary school teacher such as is running our country now.
There is no insult or disrespect present in my comment towards primary school teachers in what they do.
Thats 2 votes sounds about right
God I hate politians.
From an economic point of view what Ganley is proposing is completely ridiculous. Here are just a few reasons why…. http://wp.me/p2P1F9-1p
i have great respect for declan ganley .he is a well respected businessman .I despise this european union our people were lied to by these gangsters in the ff l fg parties who dragged our people into this mess were in .Its time to leave this monster eu Iwish declan ganly well
Well said! I agree with you.
Eh, if you hate the EU that much and want us to leave it, why do you want to vote for a man that wants us further embedded in it?
FOOL
I would love to comment here but I have been forcefully conscripted now we passed “Lisbon”
On no.. wait… That didn’t happen.
Ireland now holds the presidency of Europe. and we are still a neutral country.
Oleary (Ryanair) is creating Jobs…. How many has Ganley created ?
He’s entitled to his views and he’s entitled to put them before the electorate where we’re entitled to reject them.
Given the over runs in the HSE I would imagine our VAT rate would be v high. Some of Ganley s ideas aren t bad. The Social Welfare should only consist of 1 application form and 1payment. People don’t even realise what benefits are available. I do think the wealthy would benefit from a no income tax regime as they would buy elsewhere. We would have to ensure that staple food items and certain goods where low in VAT to ensure the vulberable in society such as the elderly were not caring the same burden as the better off.
At one point I thought that his ideas were interesting. While this tax idea is interesting, I can also see it has huge dangers for the country. What if spending collapsed? How would the government fund services then?
Really irritated to hear yet another man wade into the abortion debate. Fascinating to listen to so many men take absolute views on the whole issue of abortion. No discussion whatsoever of the responsibilities of single and or married men (fathers) who have not exactly covered themselves in glory, in this country, with respect to unwanted pregnancies. Many walked away and abandoned the mother…and then turned around and blamed her if she had the baby, or blamed her if she had an abortion! Many provided no financial support and got away with it. Maybe this side of the debate could be opened up in the interest of fairness? Really fed up with women being the target of all this ire and yet male responsibility is never, ever, ever discussed. Let us face up to what it meant to be a single mother in this country. It meant stigma, shame, isolation, poverty and a certain labelling of the children…and for all our modern appearances, it hasn’t gone away you know! Unmarried mothers were shamed from the pulpits, buried in unhallowed ground and their children often taken into forced adoptions. Single mothers are still the first ones penalised in every budget when the economy contracts. Now why is that? Men (fathers) remain faceless…we could be forgiven for thinking the women self impregnated. The majority of voices in the abortion debate, with a few exceptions are men.Yet countless men run from the responsibility of a pregnancy with a non committed relationship, including at least one bishop and priests in the past. These same men denounced single mothers from the pulpits! You couldn’t make it up! Difficult and impossible to accept then when men attempt to tell women what to do. Simply put …if they leave all the responsibility to the woman, abandon her emotionally, physically and materially then they are in no position to moralise about whatever subsequent decision she takes. They bear 100% responsibility for their role in the decision. Women are not witches or monsters, although in this debate there is this subtle condemnation of women going on all the time.
Mothers in general are nurturing, caring, protective, loving beings who will do anything they can to protect their babies. We need to bear in mind that young women finding themselves unexpectedly pregnant can often be very desperate especially if they are abandoned. A young woman is hugely vulnerable in this situation. Also hugely vulnerable after a rape or if incest is going on. So what needs to be done to address that in real terms? What real supports are there for single mothers? What about the fathers responsibility and accountability? This is a very one sided debate which is hurting lots of women – it needs to be much more mature.
Your first paragraph was well put. You’re correct in saying this is a simplistic “solution” with no thought for unintended consequences.
While I agree that too many mens voices wade into the abortion debate inconsiderately, there are women who are inconsiderate too. That said, there are insufficient voices of impacted or potentially impacted women in the debate, They are silenced by a law that criminalises them.
I don’t think the debate is so much one-sided as excessively partisan. Nobody seems to be able to debate abortion without pouring scorn and hatred on those whose opinions differ. We can’t have a debate until we learn to listen and stop judging: on both sides.
People will just buy off dodgy foreign websites where they don’t have to pay vat.
While I can see a number of faults in Ganleys proposal. (For instance we already have one of the lowest taxes in Europe, hence the quality of public services. You get what you pay for is generally a universal truth) He is the kind of politician we need in this country. Someone who’s interest is political reform. Rather then parish pump politics.
How much actual power or influence does this man actually have?? Everyone has their ideas, he’s just another self righteous man espousing what he believes. Like who cares, lets hassle the actual government for the changes we want to see!
Seems a strange principle. But if people have money they are more likely to spend it. Which is fine if they haven’t borrowed it as in the property boom. We ran the country on the proceeds of that. When the well ran dry we know what happened.
If demand drops under Declan ‘s plan then rates will have to rise, which on the face of it is self defeating.
Stupid idea. High earners would pay 0% income tax and spend none of their income in the local economy. Meanwhile, people on welfare would be crucified with a 30% sales tax.
WEgotta leave the eu now declan whatever the consequences
This would hugely only benefit the very rich, who are more flexible about where they spend their money. Therefore the burden of this would be felt by lower earners.
Our tax system is corrupt and unfair on so many levels
“A change will do you good ”
Yes i did just quote a Cheryl Crow song
People in Ireland prefer the devils they know. Hence they will forever get devils. Ganley may or may not lead to a better situation but one things for sure, if you mark your card for FF , FG , Labour or Green again then you’re either in their pocket or frankly insane.
Id say the tourists would come flocking.
i would like to say, if all you people that called declan ganley an idiot, a moran, etc, etc, i’d like to see ye coming up with ideas. at least he is tryin to do something. enda kenny is the biggest idiot ever in goverment, he cant even speak properly on radio and television, he was texting on his phone juring a meeting with the pope,he made a quiet alot of promises before he was elected and what has he done only broken them with budget cuts, abortion, garda cuts, pensions, etc etc, the list is endless. people seem to have forgotton all of these, i dont see him reducing his pay packet, HE MAKES ME SICK……
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