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'A historic moment in Ireland, but not one to be celebrated' - reaction to the passing of the abortion bill

While the passing of abortion legislation has been widely welcomed, the Pro-Choice lobby has raised concerns about the scope and implementation of the bill.

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THE PRO-CHOICE lobby has roundly welcomed the passing of the Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill, but pressed the Government not to stop there.

The bill was passed in the Dáil last night, by a margin of 127 to 31, but many pro-choice groups are hoping that the bill is just the first step.

Orlaith Reidy of Galway Pro-Choice said that although the legislation was to be welcomed, it was ‘ineffective’.
“Forcing women who are suicidal to face panels of between 3 to 7 medical professionals is such an ordeal in itself that women entitled to a legal abortion here will continue to travel abroad, rendering the legislation ineffective.

There is also no provision to ensure those against terminations in all circumstances cannot sit on these decision making panels raising the possibility of a woman not being granted a termination regardless of her case including if there is a genuine risk to her life.

Choice Ireland spokesperson Sineád Ahern said that the bill would not be a long term solution as long as the Eighth Amendment, which places a constitutional ban on abortion, was in place.

“As long as the Eighth Amendment is in place doctors will be forced to make the dangerous and inhumane distinction between a threat to health and a threat to life.

As long as the Eighth amendment is in place thousands of Irish women will continue to travel. We are calling on the government to now begin the work of repealing the Eighth Amendment and ensure that these women can be cared for at home.

The Abortion Rights Campaign (ARC) said that the bill is ’21 years overdue’.  ARC spokesperson Sarah Malone said that the criminal penalties in the bill could force women not to seek help.

“Because of the criminal penalties outlined in the Bill, a doctor may once again refuse to provide a life saving abortion because of potential legal sanctions against them. This Bill lacks the clarity to earn its name.”

Sinn Féin president Gerry Adams called on the Government to ensure the full implementation of the bill.

“It has taken 21 years to secure the passing of this legislation. It is long overdue.

The onus is firmly on the government to ensure that all of the necessary resources and commitments contained in this bill are implemented in full.

All pictures; Laura Hutton/Photocall Ireland

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    Mute TheFairWind
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 9:52 AM

    A bus route is not what we need – a train (preferably underground) with a station in the airport that runs into the city centre is what we badly need in Dublin.

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    Mute Allister
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 10:20 AM

    Some laugh… How many years would that take to build… This is Ireland…. Where a one hour Job takes four and a half months to complete with paperwork, red tape and brown envelopes galore.

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    Mute John Reese
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 10:36 AM

    No point building one just for tourists. You need to be able to support multiple stations in a network. In reality the LUAS should have been an underground project. Id guess the majority of people departing and arriving into DUB are not heading into the city centre.

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    Jun 23rd 2016, 10:05 AM

    Bus routes to the airport, what will they think of next?

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    Mute Cowboys Ted
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 12:36 PM

    Bordeaux, a city of 250,000 has a light rail system that covers the whole city, and costs 1.80 for unlimited day use. Think about that for a second.

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    Mute Luke
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 1:12 PM

    It costs 1.80 for one journey not for unlimited use. It’s great value and great system regardless

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    Mute tam peters
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 6:37 PM

    And think about how much the french government subsidize its railways compared to the least subvention in the whole of europe in ireland.think about that for a second

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    Mute Dave Smith
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 9:20 AM

    it seems like a very lazy route , its just a spur of the 747 route and overlapping with the Aircoach route. they should have pushed out to Terenure or something similar

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    Mute Margaret Doyle Hanley
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 9:27 AM

    Well, At least it might stop the no. 16 being overcrowded. That route is a health + safety risk with people standing in the stairwell + totally cramped conditions.

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    Mute AN other
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 11:38 AM

    Doubt it, the 16 is €2.50 and this is €6 for practically the same journey

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    Jun 23rd 2016, 1:29 PM

    When you last on it at €2.50 ?

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    Jun 23rd 2016, 9:55 AM

    FFS..smaller cities in Europe have a super efficient rail system..why is Dublin stuck in the dark ages?

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    Mute Alien8
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 10:18 AM

    incompetence… they could even reuse the connolly – belfast line to run an express train with minimal cost by diverting through farms in fingal, but in incompetent Ireland, we let everyone have a say and they end up proposing having a hyper over priced monorail stopping at every little crappy suburb on the way there.

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    Mute Keith Gregg
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 11:10 AM

    We had one till ff tore most of it up in the 1950s. Nothing was expanded on really after we got independence with the exception of dart

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    Mute Buster VL
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 1:46 PM

    Trade unions oppose progress

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    Mute Ger Comings
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 9:49 AM

    We’re one of the few European cities without a rail link from the city centre to the airport.

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    Jun 23rd 2016, 11:40 AM

    We have one at Kerry airport though

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    Jun 24th 2016, 12:50 AM

    Emirates landing in Kerry! Defiantly not in my lifetime

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    Jun 23rd 2016, 9:37 AM

    Is Aircoach still cheaper and more comfy?

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    Mute James Mac Donnchadha
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 9:40 AM

    It is!! Haha

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    Mute Richard Moloney
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 11:19 AM

    Aircoach is 7, 747 is 6. But aircoach is twice as quick and much better!

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    Mute Nucky
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 11:34 AM

    Plus double deckers and suitcases don’t mix !

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    Mute Mark Gerard Lochlain
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 9:30 AM

    Sur arn’t we only fab! Dublin bus and “fast” are two terms I wouldn’t put together!

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    Jun 23rd 2016, 1:47 PM

    On a similar topic…how does the DART QUALIFY FOR THE ‘R’ in it’s name? Rapid it is not, well not by any normal standards.

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    Jun 23rd 2016, 3:17 PM

    It was Rapid compared to the amount of time it took to get to Bray on the bus back then.

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    Jun 23rd 2016, 6:26 PM

    Its as quick as the steam train that operated the suburban service 50 years ago. Not messing.

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    Mute Alan Lawlor
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 8:35 PM

    Steam trains regularly travelled across Ireland at 70mph in the 1850s.
    The max speed on most parts of the rail network is 50mph today

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    Mute СIΔЯΔИ FΔЯЯΞLLY
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 10:21 AM

    I’ve sold monorails to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook, and, by gum, it put them on the map!

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    Mute Rourkey52.
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 10:19 AM

    Another bus from the city to the airport. Do they not know the nth co exists as well. What about a direct bus serving the likes of Balbriggan , Skerries , Rush , Lusk , Swords , etc. These areas are crying out for a direct link. For tourists and airport workers alike..

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    Mute Richard Moloney
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 11:17 AM

    Swords has 2 or 3 direct buses every 10/15 minutes from the airport.

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    Jun 23rd 2016, 1:32 PM

    The 102 goes from malahide swords etc to the airport

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    Jun 23rd 2016, 1:51 PM

    Takes half a day to do the whole route, quicker to cycle. Aimed at workers not travellers.

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    Mute Aisling Farrell
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 8:26 PM

    Joe, the 102 only runs about every hour and there was none on a Sunday last time i checked.
    The poulation of the north county has expanded rapidly and the current transport system will soon no longer be fit for purpose.

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    Jun 23rd 2016, 10:42 AM

    Bit of good news and people still fkn moan.no pleasing some folk just moan for the sake of moaning

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    Jun 23rd 2016, 9:57 AM

    Monorail :-)

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    Jun 23rd 2016, 11:26 AM

    Well, a monorail did put Brockway, Ogdenville and North Haverbrook on the map.

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    Jun 23rd 2016, 2:28 PM

    The ring came off my pudding can.

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    Mute dearg doom
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 1:23 PM

    It’s just a bid to put Aircoach out of business, as is always the case with new Dublin bus routes.

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    Mute Declan Gibney
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 1:59 PM

    Take a look at the DLR in London and get building an elevated system ASAP. Most time spent on Luas construction is diverting UG services before laying tracks.

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    Mute tam peters
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 12:44 PM

    Or what about re routing an airport route up the finglas or ballymun roads and serve the area there.

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    Mute Buster VL
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 1:45 PM

    The bus drivers will be after a wage rise

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    Mute Aisling Farrell
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 8:21 PM

    6 euro is a total ripoff.

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    Mute Richard Doherty
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 4:29 PM

    A bus service for lazy southsiders

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    Mute Norman Wyse
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    Jun 23rd 2016, 6:52 PM

    They cancelled the 748 which made Dublin airport more viable for the south and west of the country. Helped Cork and Shannon probably!

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    Jun 23rd 2016, 8:13 PM

    Bloody bus to the airport n the Luas to dundrum shopping centre tanx to one politician nice

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